Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the BATF letter that states that US made parts do not need to be marked to count as 922R compliance parts. I tried search here and came up with nothing.
Thanks
AFAIK, the general belief is that the onus is on the BATF to show that the parts are NOT US made, and since there appears to have never been a 922(r) case brought by the BATF, no one's disputing that.
I've searched through a number of US Codes and the BATF site and have found nothing. Maybe a respectful letter to them would clear this up?
i was sort of thinking about buying a stamping set from harbor freight tools and stamping usa on my slant muzzle breaks. once its dura coated i doubt anyone would be able to tell. i mean it wouldnt be usa made perse but it would be made into usa. think it'd fly? with no problems? worst comes to worst i bought it at a gun show... right. as long as it says usa people shouldnt question.
well Century compliance kits are not marked made in USA piston has no marking and fcg and grip have a C on them and that has been flying high on the pole for a long time
the C from century is one of those things that while at least its an attempt.... doesnt really prove anything either.
its like my new cetme stock set... it was made for me by an amish fellow. he didnt stamp it US made, and it looks damn near perfect to the original set (just a little better finish) how would i ever prove that?
Guys with batman getting froggy lately wouldn't be wise to mark eveything like a dog hitting every tree ect in the hood just to be safe and in compliance?????
I am not 100% sure, but doesn't compliance fall into the hand of the manufacturer, not joe blow that bought the rifle and changed the front muzzle brake or magazine....
Do you have a link to the letter? Inserting a mag is a special case, a part that people "install" or "assemble" all the time. Wouldn't a mag need to be witnessed as being assembled onto an AK for it to be declared as having been assembled by a person?
The point is, possession of a non-compliant firearm isn't specifically denied. It might be interesting to see how a court would treat possession without proof of assembly. But not by me, all my AK's are either in parts or legal WRT 922(r)
same here.... all my builds are compliant.. AK's,stens,ppsh, MG42,53,DP28,CETME & most of my other builds that dont even have to be are there just for arguments sake.
So if you have a preban foreign made semi-auto,(imported in assault weapon configuration, I think!) would it have to be converted to 922 compliant to be legal, or is it grandfathered? (my california DOJ registered AK) THANKS! Rod
Since "they" are trying to say that gun smithing is "manufacturing" as in modifying a weapon is manufacturing IE restocking, re-bluing, scope block mounting etc. With that being their idea wouldn't modifying ie touching up, taking the "burrs" off of gun parts, refinishing, make nicer, etc, be manufacturing? I can see alot of parts in my parts boxes as being US manufactured following their kind guidance!!!!!
Unfortunately, forum membership doesn't make the laws, and they're sure not gonna help you with your lawyer bills.
The ATF sent a letter saying that the part would have to change function to count as "US Made".
For example, taking a Romanian trigger and reshaping it for crisper release, would not be countable as a US made part ( because it's still a trigger ).
Taking a Romanian G buttstock and cutting pistol grips out of it would get you US made pistol grips ( because pistol grips are obviously not buttstocks ).
So if you have a preban foreign made semi-auto,(imported in assault weapon configuration, I think!) would it have to be converted to 922 compliant to be legal, or is it grandfathered?
What if I get unfinished parts with a kit; hand guard, pistol grip. The finish them here in CONUS. Isn't that kinda like a flat n ot being a firearm until it's folded????
What if I get unfinished parts with a kit; hand guard, pistol grip. Then finish them here in CONUS. Isn't that kinda like a flat not being a firearm until it's folded????
According to the ATF, the part has to change function, not just appearance.
Now if your kit comes with wood blocks from a Romanian or Polish tree and you make pistol grips and buttstocks out of those, you're good to go.
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