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    Quote Originally Posted by hubel458 View Post
    showing a 2000gr slug protuding out

    That's what? 1/4 pound?


    WOW. That's all I can say.
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    my good that that just a massive amount of lead. I want to do a NEF but just so may other projects. I should send in my 45-70 nef action and get a barrel for it. Will this action be suitable for the ultra slugger barrel I forget.

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    That's what? 1/4 pound?
    Answer: 2000 gr = 0.285714 lb
    OR 0 lb and 4.57 oz


    And WOW is right.
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    I don't know. You'll have to call NEF.

    got 3" chambered 12ga set up to test loads with RE-17.
    Many guys want loads for 3" chambered slug barrels as they
    come from the factory., So I put extra 24" Savage barrel I had
    on a Mauser GEHA bolt action. Rifled Savage barrel is modern
    steel with .93" muzzle diameter. Original barrel on the GEHA
    was only .82" at muzzle. I added an extra rear bolt locking lug
    onto the Mauser bolt. Using up stuff to make test gun.

    Any modern steel slug barrel, whether on bolt, autoloading,
    pump, or break action gun with same muzzle diameter will handle
    these RE-17 loads. Max loads were all 115gr of RE-17 in plastic
    3" cases, all with seals and cushion wads. Can't get no more under
    the seals, cushions and slugs in 3". Which is why I like 3.5"
    chambers. With 437 gr Brenekkee and 420 gr in BPI sabot got
    over 1900. With 520gr Lyman in shot cup 1850. With 600gr Dixie
    got 1800. With 870 gr hard lead got 1600. This is 24" barrel,
    so longer barrels will get more. In comparison to IMR4227 loads,
    these are about the same speed as using 90gr of 4227. But this
    powder is so much easier on cases and guns, with about .004"
    less base cup expansion. It works great in 3" and really gets the
    speed in 3.5" cases, as in 3.5" cases,as seal/wads about same,
    extra length for powder. The 870gr load is max peak pressure of
    16,000 psi. Muzzle pressure is about 3500-4000 psi.
    I'll have pic of the Mauser in few days.ED

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    Here is picture of my 695 Mossberg bolt action.
    It is 28ga FH, a 3.25" long brass case. Was a
    12ga with light barrel. I also have a heavy 12ga
    barrel chambered for 3.5" cases and a .500" barrel
    for my 499HE a real long brass case. Also I am
    doing my 499HE in a NEF. You can get a NEF with
    MMouse 500S&W and run my reamer in and get real
    power.The 395,495,595 actions will work also,
    as they like the 695 have double bolt lugs
    and a loading port that can be lengthened.
    And they have a nice style...Ed


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    We get asked about finned slugs for
    12ga smooth bores and if they take high
    speed. Well they'll do just as good at high
    speed as the locked on wad stablized Brenekkee
    OK slug I tested in my smoothbore 1887 with long
    barrel, in first pic. Second pic is a Corbin
    finned slug I will get and test later. Third is
    BPI AQ slug I will test, few weeks in the 87.
    I'm going to test also in a regular smooth bore
    12ga slug barrel of medium muzzle size,
    about .92" diameter like the Savage 210 barrel.
    One gun I found with decent size diameter are
    some of Stevens smoothbores..Ed






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    Here is picture of the Mauser GEHA shotgun I
    setup with an Savage 210 rifled barrel. Used a Savage
    plastic stock also. It is setup with the original 3"
    chamber. I have many guys who want ideas and slug/load
    combination's tested in regular rifled slug barrels, so
    this is the one. Most testing will be 3" plastic cases.
    Barrel 24" long, .93" regular slug size muzzle diameter.
    The GEHA was originally converted from 98 Mausers in
    Germany in the 20s, to 12ga by reaming outl the front lug seats
    and using the rear safety lug. I added a second rear
    bearing lug and it handles 15,000 psi loads ok.
    The cases come out with the weight of the bolt.
    That will be max pressure used in it, with that slug gun
    barrel thickness. Example load is 115gr of RE17 in 3"
    plastic case, with 520 gr Lyman cast slug at 1850 plus fps.
    This load expands the plastic case base cups about .005",
    in comparison, a REM factory Buckhammer and other super
    mag turkey and goose loads expands .010".
    And we have over 300 fps more velocity.Ed


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    Testing some .660" diameter 630 gr hard cast
    slugs in the red WIN wadcup in 3.5" plastic
    case. Tested in rifled long barrel in 12ga
    NEF about 2100 fps. Greg Sappington makes
    these. They are hollow point. 3" group at
    50yds, peep sight, bad eyes. I also fired
    a couple to see if they'd work in my long
    brass cased 16GA FH shown in the picture.
    They work ok, so Greg has a double duty
    slug.They'd work in 16ga plastic also.
    The 16ga was held at 1500 as the barrel
    isn't heavy, on Stevens/Revelation 16ga. Ed


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    Comparing brass cases.I tell folks who are stepping
    up in 12ga power from 3.5 plastic, you can get 3.5" brass cases
    from Rocky Mtn Cartridge. Here you can see how heavy
    and nice they are compared to regular brass cases.
    They also make shorter 3" brass cases also.
    They fit the chamber tight and are long enough to
    get some serious thumping power.And they have a
    super strong, thick , solid head, not a weak balloon head
    like regular ones on the left in pic.Ed




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    I don't see the shells on their site? Do they offer longer shells for the 12G f h?
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