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    Well Pacnor makes rifle barrels for .700 and 12ga.
    Rifled barrels for bigger cost huge amounts which is
    why I use smooth and I set up to make slugs that
    work in smooth barrels. Even these filled with lead
    could be drilled out in the back to make a front
    heavy slug and/or also screw on a seal/wad base as
    I pictured earlier so that it is usable in smooth.ED

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    You know of the 4 bore we did on falling block,
    with its 1 inch bore.Using turned cases and cases
    made from 20mm brass. Our cases have a rim and
    straight sides. A smith in the EU made a 1 inch bore
    gun on a bolt action, using 20mm brass expanded
    to take 1 inch bullets. His case has a shoulder to
    head space on. It is called the Inch Gun by some.
    It is a really nice looking gun, with great
    craftsmanship.Ed

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    Here is picture of the 8ga falling block we are working
    on, partly done. It is built like the 4bore one in a
    one piece stock. IT is built .150" narrower than 4bore.
    We used the heavy 8ga barrel that I first
    put in the Enfield bolt gun for a 8ga testing. The breech
    block, linkage, lever, pivot is done, as you can see
    in picture with lever open and breech down.
    I have got to chamber, put in firing pin, do
    hammer and trigger. 8ga gun in 1st picture.

    Hammer and trigger setup is now mounted and moves
    on the back of the breech block on an extension.
    I also made this change first on 4bore, 2nd pic.
    It uses NEF hammer and spring and Stevens trigger.
    Breech block set up same as 4bore just narrower.
    Later hope to do a 2 bore and same setup only
    breech and action a little wider.Ed




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    Here picture of the 8ga from back. This action will also
    do 12ga FH, 10ga, 700HE, 600NE,50BMG,etc. The breech
    block in this and the 4bore are 1 inch thick front to back,
    with the width different. The bottom of block is same on all
    and uses same linkage and lever; same hammer and trigger.
    The 4bore one will do 20mm, as that is what I make
    the 4bore brass from. When I do 2bore, breech block will use
    same design, but just be wider on the top of the block.
    The recoil pads are over 2" thick. I made the stock
    from a 2.5" thick blank......mostly by hand.

    This action will hold much more pressure that the heavy
    built plastic 8ga cases can take , and they are good
    to over 20,000 psi. Like a 1000gr at 2500.Ed

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    Guys wanted more particulars of Hubel FB..
    Here is picture, empty falling block receiver
    from the top...2nd a side view of the breech
    block with back extensions, with hammer and
    trigger. Hammer has safety cocking notch.
    The lever, not shown, connects to linkage up
    inside the two bottom extensions.Ed


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    Hubel,

    Would these .50 barrels be good for something?



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    Original Item: Purchased by IMA many years ago, these are original U.S. .50Cal. M2 Browning machine gun barrels that were "officially" shortened to 36". Years ago we had close to 100 pieces that originated from a NATO sale and just recently a few examples, in terms of half a dozen, have shown up again in the IMA ongoing warehouse reorganization. Still dirty as found, most likely shoot-able after a good cleaning, offered in AS IS condition only.
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    Guys wanted more particulars of Hubel FB..
    Here is picture, empty falling block receiver
    from the top...2nd a side view of the breech
    block with back extensions, with hammer and
    trigger. Hammer has safety cocking notch.
    The lever, not shown, connects to linkage up
    inside the two bottom extensions.Ed
    WHO IS DOING THE HEAT TREATING ON THE RECIVER?? WHAT GRADE OF STEEL DID YOU USE?? I HAVE BEEN THINKIN MORE AND MORE ABOUT A FALLING BLOCK BUILD FOR A RIFLE.

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    Steel is 4140 with 125,000 lb tensile.Machines a little hard.
    It isn't hardened to be above RC 35-38 range, as that isn't needed.
    The sides are way higher than regular highwall actions so
    that gives extra strength. Sides clear to the top and a thick top.

    Those 50 cal barrels if they aren't rusted and pitted
    will work fo any 50 cal.

    A fellow in Texas picked up a Tula-Toz 4bore
    pump gun like Big Al has. He is getting some
    of the 3 inch brass 4ga cases from RMC.
    RMC still has them if anyone needs them.
    That gun takes a short 4ga case, either brass
    or plastic if you can find them.This 4 gauge
    is a .938 inch bore, smaller than our 1 inch one.
    Pic is Al's gun.Bolt has 4 locking lugs...ED

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    Here are pictures of the Falling Block breech block.
    Front and side rear view....Notice the integral bottom
    extensions are narrower than the top. These are
    what the linkage is inside of and when breech is
    levered down these fit though the slot in the stock.
    And being narrower the slot isn't too wide so the
    stock has enough strength. Bottom extensions same
    width for all action sizes.Just top different
    for the size of action needed for big cartridges.
    This breech is little rough as it has had a dozen
    changes to it. But it holds a load in 4 bore
    of 1500gr over 2600.Ed


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    Some more slug ideas--First picture of 10ga 830gr
    hollow base slug in 8ga wad cup, And 690gr hollowbase
    69 caliber Dixie Gunworks slug that I swaged down a
    little, in a 12ga wad cup.
    2nd picture is the a new offering from the EU,a
    new 300gr US-S slug with locked on base, discarding
    petals, by European Cartridge. Accurate in smooth bores.
    In 3" plastic they load to over 2100 with shotgun
    powders. In a 3.5" plastic and our slower powders
    I could get over 2800. Ed


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