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    Hey, FU. You had better sharpen up on your reading skills. I did not see one sentence in this thread where someone said they were willing or eagerly looking for collapse. The closest to it might be Mr. Blade recognition of our country replaying the last days of Rome
    I doubt very much if any of the 'preppers' here view their prepping any differently than any of us view our insurance. Really don't want to use it , but DAMNED sure gonna have it.
    As for the several skills yiou questioned in your post; I and any of the other 19 in our group of Extraordinary Gentlemen, can do any one of those things. We gather several times a month concentrating on woodsmanship, marksmanship, fitness and tactics. We are not the pot-bellied nitwits one sees on the news calling themselves 'Militias'. Fourteen of us have seen the elephant and the other six had to pass a test that anyone on this board would say would make them worthy.
    I'm sixty years old and turned in passing times on confidence and infiltration courses until I was 45. I can still do a 7 minute mile in street clothes. The other gentlemen in our group of my generation are basically the same level.
    As for a desire for collapse; When I get up tomorrow, after a short workout, I'll go nextdoor with some fresh white whiskey and see if my neighbors Black Cherry flavored ale is ready for sipping. I also wish to be doing this 15 years from now.
    Collapse? Don't want it, ain't looking for it, but damn sure ready for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Unbelievable. over and over you so called patriotic Americans are willing, it seems eager infact, for collapse of the country you supposedly love to occur.

    I don't care how good of a prepper you are, how secure you believe your home base, cabin, bunker, or whatever is, if others want it they will take it away from you. Once the hordes leave the cities and work their way into the rural areas your desire for collapse will take on a different light. Especially if TOTAL collapse occurs and the military collapses right along with it and soon you have roving bands of military troops with their own tanks and helicopters. How many of you preppers can stop one M1A1 Abrams tank coming up to your "Secure Location" let alone 2 or 3 or even 10 being operated by renegade military troops? How many can shoot down an attack helicopter, let alone 2 or 3 as they pound your secure location? Or how many of you could hold off a dozen or so determined attackers? See it is all well and good to believe you are bullet proof when you talk about a handful of ill prepared or ill equipped stragglers attempting to take your stuff, and another completely when you are talking about heavily armed and well trained military personnel, or a mass attack by heavily armed civilians.


    Frankly, as dissatisfied as I am with the state of affairs of the country I DO Love, I would never wish to see collapse of that country to prove a political point.
    That's equipment. I know in the Marine Corps on average it takes 12 Marines just to support one ground pounder infantry guy. Not to mention maintain equipment. It takes a lot to got a tank down the road or a chopper off the ground. I know in my circles we would band together and get as many under our protective arms as possible. Swearing an oath to Uphold and defend the Constitution to many of us doesn't mean defend a piece of paper. But who knows? Either way Fyred Up have you ever seen Black Blade's preps??? F'ing wicked man... If it ever hits the fan I'm going to wander the streets asking if anybody knows Black Blade...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter_02 View Post
    Hey, FU. You had better sharpen up on your reading skills. I did not see one sentence in this thread where someone said they were willing or eagerly looking for collapse. The closest to it might be Mr. Blade recognition of our country replaying the last days of Rome
    I doubt very much if any of the 'preppers' here view their prepping any differently than any of us view our insurance. Really don't want to use it , but DAMNED sure gonna have it.
    As for the several skills yiou questioned in your post; I and any of the other 19 in our group of Extraordinary Gentlemen, can do any one of those things. We gather several times a month concentrating on woodsmanship, marksmanship, fitness and tactics. We are not the pot-bellied nitwits one sees on the news calling themselves 'Militias'. Fourteen of us have seen the elephant and the other six had to pass a test that anyone on this board would say would make them worthy.
    I'm sixty years old and turned in passing times on confidence and infiltration courses until I was 45. I can still do a 7 minute mile in street clothes. The other gentlemen in our group of my generation are basically the same level.
    As for a desire for collapse; When I get up tomorrow, after a short workout, I'll go nextdoor with some fresh white whiskey and see if my neighbors Black Cherry flavored ale is ready for sipping. I also wish to be doing this 15 years from now.
    Collapse? Don't want it, ain't looking for it, but damn sure ready for it.
    Hunter
    Look if you are saying your group can take out Abrams tanks and attack helicopters I have to say sorry I am not buying it. Maybe 1 tank, or one helicopter, but not multiples.

    As for the physical shape of yourself and those in your group I would say with 100% certainty that you are the exception not the rule.

    I for damn sure don't want a collapse, whether economic, societal, or governmental. I see the visions that people have of what will occur if a collapse happens, and their belief that they will be prepared for anything that will come their way, and I believe that those ideas are completely delusional if a complete collapse occurs. Look at the mayhem that occurs during the aftermath of a hurricane, or a blackout, or any other disaster and multiply that by a billion and that is total collapse.

    I am as ready as I can be, but I have no illusions about being able to hold out against multiple attackers repeatedly attacking me forever, or against superior technology or armaments. Frankly, I prep for more realistic scenarios like I have stated in other topics, like my wife's breats cancer, or a storm that may shut everything down for days or weeks. It doesn't meant that I am incapable of holding off looters for a while, but not indefinitely.

    Honestly, spending thousands or millions of dollars on multiple bug out locations, bunkers, millions of rounds of ammunition, food for 5 or 10 years, and so on makes no sense for me at all. I would not tell anyone else how to spend their time or money, or how to prep, I am just talking about how I see things for me and my situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abukai08 View Post
    That's equipment. I know in the Marine Corps on average it takes 12 Marines just to support one ground pounder infantry guy. Not to mention maintain equipment. It takes a lot to got a tank down the road or a chopper off the ground. I know in my circles we would band together and get as many under our protective arms as possible. Swearing an oath to Uphold and defend the Constitution to many of us doesn't mean defend a piece of paper. But who knows? Either way Fyred Up have you ever seen Black Blade's preps??? F'ing wicked man... If it ever hits the fan I'm going to wander the streets asking if anybody knows Black Blade...
    I have seen his preps. It is impressive. It is not what I would choose to do.
    But as I said in the post above I will not tell anyone else how to spend their time or money when it comes to prepping. That is their choice, just as how I decide to spend my time or money when it comes to prepping is mine.

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    back to the point..
    Mitty is a RINO, that is why he lost.
    As was McCain and McCain got more votes.. than ROMY.. but he was a looser of a pic..from the start.... as soon as he was the R nomination I knew he'd fail. and he ran a terrible campaign.. on top of being a old RICH (filthy rich) white Morman.. sorry but it's over before it began.. b2b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt2bounce View Post
    back to the point..
    As was McCain and McCain got more votes.. than ROMY.. but he was a looser of a pic..from the start.... as soon as he was the R nomination I knew he'd fail. and he ran a terrible campaign.. on top of being a old RICH (filthy rich) white Morman.. sorry but it's over before it began.. b2b
    Just goes to show that over 5 million "alleged" conservative Republicans who didn't vote are in reality just parasites. They preferred a Communist "Community Organizer" over a Free Market Capitalist with a proven track record of turning around failed companies and events (Olympics). They are in reality the "Fifth Columnists" we were warned about since the 1950s. I have no respect and no use for such treasonous bastards. I hope they get exactly what they voted for (they voted for Obamunism by not voting). In fact I hope they get everything they voted for to the fullest extent possible.

    Fortunately I can go off grid and live the rest of my days fishing and hunting but the America we grew up in is gone forever. We had our last chance. I am done with the Repuke Party myself as I see no point in wasting my time voting from this point onward. We are simply outnumbered and out manuevered as the majority of Americans become wards of the state. In short the Repuke Party is finished - they drove a stake through its heart and buried it once and for all. Game over as it appears we are on the fast track to a Communist form of Authoritarianism. Game Over.
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    Polls just came out and 16.6 Million blacks voted this year (300,000 more than in 2008), 11 Million Hispanics this year (1.7 Million more than in 2008) and 91.6 Million whites this year (7 Million LESS than 2008). This was due to the lack of the elderly vote which only made up 16% of the vote which was way lower than expected and it was the only demographic that Obama was way behind on (Polls had him down by 15 points amongst elderly).

    Point is just a little nugget showing the above stated comments are right on the mark. Many of the way right conservatives stayed home most likey due to the belief of Mitt Romney being too moderate.
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    I have a hard time believing those numbers.

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    Thanks to Demonrats, Fifth Columnists and Turncoat Repukes the Victors have attained their goal



    We had our last shot at it and the people turned down freedom and liberty because it requires personal responsibility. We do get the government we deserve in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tanvil View Post
    I have a hard time believing those numbers.
    Well Romney got 57% of the 91.6 Million whites who voted bringing him to 48,548,000 votes roughly by white voters. 80% of blacks and hispanics combined went to Obama so the remaining 20% of the total 27.6 Million votes cast by both demographics leaves Romney with 5,520,000 votes from the blacks and hispanics bringing his rough total of 54,068,000 which is about what his total of votes was.

    Disclaimer: these numbers are rounded because I came up in the Kalifornia Public School System, but they are pretty close.

    I had a hard time believing them too man, but this is how they read. there is no doubt though that the addition of 5 million votes to those numbers may have swayed a few states and definitely given Romney the popular vote.
    "What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?" -Thomas Jefferson-


    "Our rights come from our humanity and may not be legislated away -- not by a vote of Congress, not by the consensus of our neighbors, not even by agreement of all Americans but one." Judge Andrew P. Napolitano

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