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    Default Oops – Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun Registration

    Oops – Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun Registration

    Washington DC - -(Ammoland.com)- Good news — it has become known that hidden deep within the massive 2800-page bill called Obamacare there is a Senate Amendment protecting the right to keep and bear arms.

    It seems that in their haste to cram socialized medicine down the throats of the American people, then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Barack Obama overlooked Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.

    According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot collect “any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.”

    CNN is calling it “a gift to the nation’s powerful gun lobby.”

    And according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), that’s exactly right. He says he added the provision in order to keep the NRA from getting involved in the legislative fight over Obamacare, which was so ubiquitous in 2010.

    Read more at Ammoland.com: Oops - Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun Registration

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    Thats Awesome ..... And with the events of last year, could this be used to deter new laws ...

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    Default Only in relation to the health provisions.

    ‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—řAs
    added by section 10101(e)(2)ż
    ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
    and health promotion activity implemented under subsection

    (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information
    relating to—
    ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
    firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
    of an individual; or
    ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
    or ammunition by an individual.
    ‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities
    provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
    and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
    Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection
    of any information relating to—
    ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
    ammunition;
    ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
    ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
    ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
    the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
    Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by
    that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to
    maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a
    firearm or ammunition.
    ‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
    ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
    be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
    and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any
    health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with
    the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
    made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon—
    ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
    ammunition; or
    ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
    ‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
    INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
    information under any data collection activity authorized
    under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
    amendment made by that Act relating to—
    ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
    ammunition; or
    ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
    or ammunition.
    ‘‘(d) REGULATIONS.—Not later than 2 years after the date of enactment
    of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the Secretary
    shall promulgate regulations that provide criteria for determining
    whether a reimbursement structure is described in subsection
    (a).
    ‘‘(e) STUDY AND REPORT.—Not later than 180 days after the
    date on which regulations are promulgated under subsection (c),
    the Government Accountability Office shall review such regulations
    and conduct a study and submit to the Committee on Health, Education,
    Labor, and Pensions of the Senate and the Committee on
    Energy and Commerce of the House of Representatives a report regarding
    the impact the activities under this section have had on
    the quality and cost of health care.
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    Yeh, right! We'll see how far this goes.

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    That's awesome, but Obamacare is also not a tax unless it's conveniant to be called that and the Middle Class wasn't going to see a tax increase.
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    They will say, and it will be upheld, that it only pertains to Health and Wellness providers asking for that information. It doesn't pertain to any other type of database or registration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBob View Post
    They will say, and it will be upheld, that it only pertains to Health and Wellness providers asking for that information. It doesn't pertain to any other type of database or registration.
    If you go back to my post of the relevant section, I have bolded in red the text that says exactly that.

    There is no help in this bill.
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    Well if true then police officer judges and everybody else could not ask people about guns. none of this is going to have anything to do with Feinstein and Obama's plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs View Post
    If you go back to my post of the relevant section, I have bolded in red the text that says exactly that.

    There is no help in this bill.
    Hadn't read the whole thread before posting. I did see that after posting and finishing the thread.

    Don't know why everyone seems to think this matters, but sometimes logic and common sense ....well, you know.

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