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    Own a gun? Time to buy violence liability insurance, California Democrats say








    Democratic lawmakers proposed legislation Tuesday that would require California gun owners to buy liability insurance to cover damages or injuries caused by their weapons.

    Similar bills have been introduced in other states after the Newtown, Conn., school massacre. They include Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and New York.

    "I was moved, like many others, being the father of two young children, by the Sandy Hook incident and looking for constructive ways to manage gun violence here in California as well as the rest of the country," said Assemblyman Philip Ting of San Francisco, who introduced AB231 along with Assemblyman Jimmy Gomez of Los Angeles. "There's basically a cost that is born by the taxpayers when accidents occur. ... I don't think that taxpayers should be footing those bills."

    Ting equated the idea to requiring vehicle owners to buy auto insurance. Gomez said it would encourage gun owners to take firearms safety classes and keep their guns locked up to get lower insurance rates.

    No state has enacted the requirement despite repeated previous attempts, said Jon Griffin, a policy analyst with the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    Bills have been offered unsuccessfully in Massachusetts and New York since at least 2003, when the conference began keeping track, he said. Similar bills were proposed in Illinois in 2009 and in Pennsylvania last year. Lawmakers are introducing the bills this year in even more states after the recent shootings.

    Some proposals would require buyers to show proof of insurance before they could purchase a weapon. The proposal in California would apply to anyone owning a weapon, Ting said, though the bill's details are still being worked out.

    Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, said most gun owners already act responsibly and can be sued for damages if they don't.

    He said the proposal is part of an ongoing attempt to "price gun owners out of existence," particularly the law-abiding poor who live in crime-ridden areas and need protection the most. Criminals would ignore the law, he said.

    Moreover, he questioned whether it is constitutional to require someone to buy insurance to exercise a constitutional right.

    "If they don't address it in committee, I'll guarantee they'll have to address it in court," Paredes said.

    Ting said he and Gomez plan to work with gun owners and opponents to craft a constitutional bill. It will not require insurance companies to offer gun insurance, but will encourage them to enter the market.

    He noted that the National Rifle Association itself already offers its members the chance to buy liability insurance, despite its opposition to requiring gun owners to buy such policies.

    Ting also introduced AB232, which would give a state income-tax credit of up to $1,000 to anyone who turns in a firearm to a local gun buyback program. The amount of the credit would be determined based on the value of the weapon.

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    Abukai: Well I hear Texas is offering refugees from behind the Redwood Curtain assylum. Kalifornia is getting way out of control. Just wait in the future they are going to make you have a kid in a car seat until they are 8 years old... Wait... Ok, Kalifornia is a lost cause.
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    How about for the pussies afraid to defend themselves & then they file lawsuits. THEY should have the insurance, so us taxpayers don't have to re-emburse their losses.
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    yep, socialism and corruption at its finest!

    i bet some major insurance company/wall-street bank is the man behind the curtain on this one.

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    We have got to start sending these. 'tards back to their maker, marked 'DEFECTIVE'. and use a damn rusty butter knife to do it.
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    Thanks for posting this. I'll look for it.

    Quoted from article; ''Similar bills have been introduced in other states after the Newtown, Conn., school massacre. They include Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and New York.''

    I didn't even know about the one in my state. The criminals were gathered together, plotting evil in Annapolis today. There was a pretty big turn out of PRO BILL OF RIGHTS folks there but that was not mentioned.

    The slick weasels in the suits must have put that into different bill.

    One of the things they were after is registering every weapon you own, unless of course your a criminal...

    You see, if a criminal who is disbarred from gun ownership was to register his gun it would violate his 5th Amendment right against self incrimination.

    I shit you not.

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    The libitards did this in our town with dogs. It is now against the law to own a Pit Bull in Rushville, Nebraska. The whole four that are in this town are grandfathered in until they die, but the owners have to have a million dollars in liability insurance. I know all four dogs and the are very friendly. Nothing was said yet about the other "dangerous" dogs like the Rottweiller or my 130 pound German Shephard. The point being that there was no vote. The city council rammed it down our throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanvil View Post
    Thanks for posting this. I'll look for it.

    Quoted from article; ''Similar bills have been introduced in other states after the Newtown, Conn., school massacre. They include Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and New York.''

    I didn't even know about the one in my state. The criminals were gathered together, plotting evil in Annapolis today. There was a pretty big turn out of PRO BILL OF RIGHTS folks there but that was not mentioned.

    The slick weasels in the suits must have put that into different bill.

    One of the things they were after is registering every weapon you own, unless of course your a criminal...

    You see, if a criminal who is disbarred from gun ownership was to register his gun it would violate his 5th Amendment right against self incrimination.

    I shit you not.
    You shit us not my friend Haynes v. US Supreme court case of 1968. Check it out if you haven't yet.
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    "Our rights come from our humanity and may not be legislated away -- not by a vote of Congress, not by the consensus of our neighbors, not even by agreement of all Americans but one." Judge Andrew P. Napolitano

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