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    Are The Ammo Shortages By Design



    By Mike HendrenMarch 23, 2013 9:05 PM

    The photo above was taken outside our local Academy Sports store just a couple of days ago. This scene is played out at thousands of retailers all across America every day. But why? How and why is this happening? Is this just a function of a public panic over threatened gun control action? A recent Rasmussen poll says 65 percent of Americans see the Second Amendment as protection against tyranny.

    There’s been lots of speculation over the last several months about ammo shortages. Consumers are frustrated with long lines and the lack of availability. The most common calibers are increasingly difficult to find. 9mm, .223 cal., 5.56 NATO, .40, cal. and .45 cal. have all but dried up. Prices are up 100 to 200 percent over just two years ago. I recently stood in line for over an hour and a half to purchase the last two 20 round boxes of .45 at a local retailer. I paid just under $30 per box. Two years ago, the same rounds would have cost just over $15, even less online.

    Many have pointed to the outrageous quantities of ammo being sought by the Department of Homeland Security. According to a recent article by Breitbart.com columnist Awr Hawkins, the DHS has ordered some 1.9 billion rounds of 9 mm. Last summer, The Blaze reported the Social Security Administration had requested over 174,000 rounds of ammo. Even the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) made substantial purchases in recent months for their Office of Law Enforcement. Who the heck knew NOAA had (or needs) a law enforcement office?

    Couple all of this with the private purchases that are increasing day by day and you’ve got a formula for a good old fashioned shortage. Could that actually be part of the governments plan? Think about it. Head on gun control does not work. California Senator Diane Feinstein saw her feeble attempt are reviving the so-called assault weapons ban of the 90′s melt down before her very eyes last week. So what if this rapid-fire buying frenzy on the part of DHS is actually an attempt to corner the market?

    What if the government is preparing for some sort of ‘civil unrest’? What’s the plan? Shoot us all? Or what if this is actually DHS’s way of trying to corner the market? What if the idea is to see if it’s actually possible to stress the marketplace to a breaking point. Manufacturers like Winchester and Federal are working at full capacity, 24/7, and still cannot keep pace with current demand. Could this be what Janet Napolitano and the Department of Homeland Security want to test? Sound outrageous to you? Is it any more outrageous than the Social Security Administration or NOAA buying up bullets faster than you can say ‘lock and load’?

    Several congressmen have demanded that Napolitano and DHS explain these purchases. So far, Napolitano and company have stonewalled, refusing to answer questions. All this secrecy does is gin up more distrust against Napolitano and DHS. The agency has done little to endear itself to the American public and Napolitano, it seems, could give a damn less. The near all-powerful agency has even gone so far as to set up unannounced ‘checkpoints’ with agents armed with fully automatic weapons. These have been explained as ‘drills’ by DHS. Officials have, so far as we can find, refused to elaborate further. Do you believe the ammo shortages could be an orchestrated effort by DHS to stress ammo supplies, creating a backdoor form of gun control?

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    HELL NO!

    By shear STUPIDITY!
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    Well judging by what I feel we all share here being a love of guns and doing things ourselves to save money and maximize exposer to our love and our hobby, it would seem that is whats happening when we see our hobby become available to only those who can afford it is a plan.

    The "Well regulated militia" refered to a well armed and well trained group of armed every day citizens. How can you take away from a well regulated militia unless you can make gun ownership to expensive for the average citizen to take part in?
    "What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?" -Thomas Jefferson-


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    so were is all the 22 lr ?????

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    well the gov buying BILLIONS of rounds? with prices as high as they are makes one wonder.


    millions i might buy the story but BILLIONS of rounds for all these chicken shit depts? what does NOAA need with ammo? do they have a infantry div we don't know about?

    were not talking the DOD that actually uses billions of rounds in active war here.

    why would a police agency need BILLIONS or rounds?

    it could all be just corruption and an excuse for some big shot to pocket the money and just say we burned up 10 billion rounds!

    i don't know what the gov is doing with the billions of dollars their supposedly buying these billions of rounds with.--whatever it is it ain't 'kosher"--

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    I think that the government will use every method they can to limit the citizens access to firearms and ammunition. I don't think that it will be one concerted push on one specific agenda, but rather hundreds or thousands of small things. Death by a thousand cuts, so to speak. If you think that Feinstein didn't know that was coming, you're sadly mistaken. As close as her and Reid are, she knew exactly what was going to happen, as it was all orchestrated. They were all playing their part. Whatever comes next will seem like a "reasonable" law to help prevent "gun violence", and the Dems and Repubs will pass it, as it will "seem" to be much more palatable to the public than the AWB was. Meanwhile, whatever they pass will be exactly what they wanted all along. Don't let your guard down for a minute.
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    Isnt it funny that with the Sequestration they have to close small airports, cut funding to active military, etc. But they still have enough money to support welfare and buying up all the ammo.
    Hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndAmendican View Post
    I think that the government will use every method they can to limit the citizens access to firearms and ammunition. I don't think that it will be one concerted push on one specific agenda, but rather hundreds or thousands of small things. Death by a thousand cuts, so to speak. If you think that Feinstein didn't know that was coming, you're sadly mistaken. As close as her and Reid are, she knew exactly what was going to happen, as it was all orchestrated. They were all playing their part. Whatever comes next will seem like a "reasonable" law to help prevent "gun violence", and the Dems and Repubs will pass it, as it will "seem" to be much more palatable to the public than the AWB was. Meanwhile, whatever they pass will be exactly what they wanted all along. Don't let your guard down for a minute.

    +1.... I couldn`t have said it any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1biggun View Post
    so were is all the 22 lr ?????
    Cablas has 22lr for 7 cents a round limit one 100rd box per customer per day with shipping the price would be more than 7 cents a round

    This is now!!!
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    Is Big Sis Attempting To Exhaust Ammunition Supplies?


    March 26th, 2013

    Paul Joseph Watson: A weapons manufacturer who supplies the federal government with ammunition told the nationally syndicated Savage Nation radio show that the Department of Homeland Security’s huge ammo purchases were an attempt to dry up supplies as part of an end run around the second amendment.

    The caller, who described himself as a defense contractor and a licensed weapons manufacturer, said the goal was to “control the amount of market that’s available on the commercial market at any time,” by forcing manufacturers to hold back stock.

    "If they periodically do this in increments, they’re going to control how much ammo is available on the commercial market,” said the caller, adding that the contracts with bullet manufacturers stipulate that everything made goes to the government as the number one priority before it is allowed to enter the commercial market.

    The caller noted how this process had caused prices to shoot up at gun shows, while in the commercial market ammunition was very limited and on back order as a result and that “supply cannot keep up with demand.” He also noted how the State Department and the ATF were making it harder to import ammunition from overseas.

    Host Michael Savage stated that the DHS’ commitment to purchase 1.6 billion bullets over the past year was, “obviously an attempt to dry up the ammunition market, to control the ammunition market.”

    The weapons manufacturer agreed, adding that the deals the DHS is agreeing with manufacturers are based on, “indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity,” allowing the feds to monopolize the supply on ammo by preventing companies from selling the bullets to the commercial market.

    Savage tied the bullet demand to the huge number of new gun purchases since Obama took office, noting, “people are afraid of him….he is the most frightening American President in modern American history….so people are rushing out to buy guns to protect themselves….but what does a gun need? A gun needs a bullet,” adding that the government is trying to enact gun control via the back door because the second amendment says nothing about the right to buy ammunition.

    The DHS’ huge bullet buys, although erroneously dismissed by some as routine, have exacerbated the nationwide shortage of ammunition, with police departments now so desperate for ammo they are being forced to barter with each other to meet their needs.

    In a letter sent to the Department of Homeland Security, Californian Congressman Doug LaMalfa and 14 of his House colleagues asked if the bulk bullet purchases were, “being conducted in a manner that strategically denies the American people access to ammunition.”

    The DHS subsequently denied that charge, claiming the bullets were being bought in bulk to save money and were for training purposes only.

    However, as we have documented, most of the bullets being purchased are hollow point rounds, which are almost twice as expensive as regular firing range bullets and therefore unsuitable for training purposes.

    As former Marine Richard Mason told reporters with WHPTV News in Pennsylvania earlier this month, “We never trained with hollow points, we didn’t even see hollow points my entire four and a half years in the Marine Corps.”

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    Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.

    Read more at Is Big Sis Attempting To Exhaust Ammunition Supplies? | Market Daily News
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