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    Default Shop in CT has license revoked ?

    Most of the article is copied to this thread, and here's the link
    Gun Shop That Sold Firearm to Newtown Shooter’s Mom Has Gun License Revoked — Feds Don’t Say Why | TheBlaze.com



    Gun Shop That Sold Firearm to Newtown Shooter’s Mom Has Gun License Revoked — Feds Don’t Say Why
    Apr. 5, 2013 3:30pm

    NEW HAVEN, Conn. — A shop that sold a gun to the Newtown school shooter’s mother has lost its federal firearms license.

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives revoked the license of Riverview Gun Sales in East Windsor in December. The agency didn’t say why.

    Nancy Lanza purchased a Bushmaster from Riverview, according to a person close to the investigation into the school shooting who spoke on condition of anonymity because the probe is continuing. It could not be confirmed whether the Bushmaster was the one used in the shooting.

    Shop owner David LaGuercia said in December that Nancy Lanza bought a gun from him years ago, but he couldn’t remember what kind. LaGuercia said at the time he was cooperating with law enforcement.

    “There is nothing more devastating than the loss of a child,” LaGuercia said in a statement in December. “We are absolutely appalled that the product that we sold several years ago would be used in this type of horrendous crime. Our hearts go out to the victims and the families.”

    His wife, Shelley Clemens, said Friday that she and her husband still don’t know why the ATF revoked his firearms license. She said the store remains open selling ammunition and other items while LaGuercia appeals the revocation.

    “They just came in the store after Sandy Hook, raided the store and took away the license,” she said, referring further questions to her husband. LaGuercia, of Agawam, Mass., didn’t return phone messages Friday.
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    Well this is fair. Remember when the government shut down Home Depot after the Oklahoma City bombing?
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    If the shop owner was black.......he would still have his license.
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    Nappy has burned the Constitution.. Other Presidents have ignored it a bit, but he burned it.
    They do not need a reason.. You must obey.. Follow the yellow line, no talking. You will answer all questions when asked, no lawyer..
    It was all the gun shop owners fault for selling a legal gun too a person legally allowed to purchase.. No talking follow the yellow line..
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    they will probably be sued out the kazoo too.

    so if a gun shop makes a legal sale and some crime is done with the product long after the legal sale was made -???

    why do the feds go after that evil honda the killer drove to the crime?

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    I'm not passing judgement on the shop or the decision to shut it down, but it is interesting, to say the least, that the shop was connected to Nancy Lanza.

    There may have been actual violations that led to the revocation, but no one seems to know what they are or be willing to talk about them. I posted this story from fox yesterday on another forum I frequent. The content of the story has changed immensely since then. Check this out. Here is my original post on shotgunworld, and the quote of the story as it existed at the time I posted:

    Shotgunworld.com • View topic - Here's one to Watch

    A Connecticut shop that sold a gun to the Newtown school shooter's mother has lost its federal firearms license.

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives revoked the license of Riverview Gun Sales in East Windsor, about 15 miles north of Hartford, in December. The agency didn't disclose why. It was first reported Thursday by The Journal News of White Plains, N.Y.

    Authorities raided the store for undisclosed reasons shortly after the December school shootings. Around the same time, a man was arrested for stealing a rifle from the shop.

    Shop owner David LaGuercia has said Nancy Lanza bought a gun from him years ago, but couldn't remember what kind.

    Adam Lanza killed 20 first-graders and six adults with his mother's rifle. He also killed his mother and himself.
    Now here is the current fox version of the story that comes up when you click on the link in the shotgunworld post:

    Shop that sold gun to Newtown shooter's mom loses license | Fox News

    A shop that sold a gun to the Newtown school shooter's mother has lost its federal firearms license.

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives revoked the license of Riverview Gun Sales in East Windsor in December. The agency, which confirmed the revocation to reporters Thursday, didn't say why.

    Authorities raided the store for undisclosed reasons shortly after the December school shootings in which Adam Lanza killed 20 first-graders and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School. He also shot to death his mother, Nancy, at their home. Authorities say he fired 154 shots with a Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle inside the school, then killed himself with a Glock handgun.

    Nancy Lanza purchased a Bushmaster from Riverview, according to a person close to the investigation into the school shooting who spoke on condition of anonymity because the probe is continuing. It could not be confirmed whether the Bushmaster was the one used in the shooting.

    Shop owner David LaGuercia said in December that Nancy Lanza bought a gun from him years ago, but he couldn't remember what kind. LaGuercia said at the time he was cooperating with law enforcement.

    "There is nothing more devastating than the loss of a child," LaGuercia said in a statement in December. "We are absolutely appalled that the product that we sold several years ago would be used in this type of horrendous crime. Our hearts go out to the victims and the families."

    His wife, Shelley Clemens, said Friday that she and her husband still don't know why the ATF revoked his firearms license. She said the store remains open selling ammunition and other items that aren't firearms while LaGuercia appeals the revocation.

    "They just came in the store after Sandy Hook, raided the store and took away the license," she said, referring further questions to her husband. LaGuercia, of Agawam, Mass., didn't return phone messages Friday.

    ATF officials said federal firearms license holders receive a copy of the violations report before a revocation is initiated and are made aware of the violations again during the hearing process. They have 60 days to appeal and in this case they chose not to do so, officials said.

    The weapons used in the shooting had all apparently been purchased by Nancy Lanza, prosecutor Stephen J. Sedensky III said last week when search warrants were unsealed showing the Lanzas' home was packed with weapons and ammunition. Clemens said in December that store records show one gun was sold to Lanza.

    Riverview Gun Sales is about 15 miles north of Hartford and about 65 miles northeast of Newtown. In December, its website described it as a place that sold a variety of rifles and pistols, including Bushmaster and Glock, but on Friday, the website's links to specific guns indicated they were not available.

    The shop also sold high-capacity ammunition magazines like the ones authorities say were used by Adam Lanza. In a law passed this week, Connecticut banned the sale or purchase of magazines holding more than 10 rounds


    Read more: Shop that sold gun to Newtown shooter's mom loses license | Fox News
    Notice how the reference to the man's arrest for stealing a rifle has been omitted? It's also been edited to just add a bunch of meaningless fluff to increase word count.

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    Store that sold gun used in Sandy Hook shooting loses license - CNN.com

    The shooter's mother, Nancy Lanza, bought the Bushmaster firearm two years ago at Riverview Gun Sales, according to Detective Matthew Carl of the East Windsor Police Department.

    The ATF spokeswoman did not comment on why the store's license was revoked, including if it had anything to do with the Newtown rampage.

    But Carl said "probably the reason the ATF raided the store on December 20 was for poor keeping of the records."

    According to police, on December 15 -- a day after the Sandy Hook shooting -- a man was arrested at Riverview Gun Sales for stealing a .50-caliber firearm. Upon investigation, authorities learned the man allegedly stole a Wyndham firearm from the same shop four days earlier; in fact, he'd been arrested in June 2011 for allegedly stealing nine firearms from the store.

    Afterward, authorities told Riverview Gun Sales' owner David LaGuercia of the December arrest and checked surveillance images. LaGuercia was not aware multiple thefts had taken place.

    "The owner is nonchalant. He is a very non-caring gun owner, very lax in his paperwork," said Carl, the East Windsor detective. "He was eventually closed for hundreds and hundreds of federal and state law violations."

    LaGuercia, the store's owner, could not be reached for comment on Friday.

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    seems the copper and dept. could be sued if he is lying about all the law violations............. so if he did have multiple violations on recording keeping then he would deserve to lose the license.

    if anything anyone with an FFL should know their records have to be spot on. been there done that, things go much more smoothly if ATF comes calling and your records are good to go

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    when you get in the BATF cross-hairs it is awful hard "not " to have made some kind of violation if you have done any business at all.

    i think there is probably going to be a big BATF crackdown on the little guy dealers.

    they have been trying to push all the little guys out for that last couple decades. this just gives them a "violate the constitution and due process of law for free" card to play by their rules.

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    Kind of sounds like this gun store guy has problems.. Must have been years back she bought the Bushmaster.. Connecticut you can not even say AK or AR in a store and red flags go up.. Stores no can sell.. Not sure if the old ones are grandfathered..
    He lives in Mass. the wife runs the store? Hmmm.. Sounds like the wife may have been slipping stuff out the back door so daddy don't get the $$$..
    They got problems.. If you have a FFL, dot the I and cross the T, the ATF is praying to shut you down..
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    hell yea we were losing the "mom and pop" dealers for some time because they have trouble keeping up with all the BATF documentation process.

    now had this been wally-martz with dozens of lawyers on file the BATF might not have shut them down so quick.

    you notice --you NEVER hear of the BATF shutting down a big chain retailer.

    going after the little guy.

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