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    Default Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud

    Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud | Fox News

    A jury in South Bend, Indiana has found that fraud put President Obama and Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election. Two Democratic political operatives were convicted Thursday night in the illegal scheme after only three hours of deliberations. They were found guilty on all counts.

    Former longtime St. Joseph County Democratic party Chairman Butch Morgan Jr. was found guilty of felony conspiracy counts to commit petition fraud and forgery, and former county Board of Elections worker Dustin Blythe was found guilty of felony forgery counts and falsely making a petition, after being accused of faking petitions that enabled Obama, then an Illinois Senator, to get on the presidential primary ballot for his first run for the White House.

    Morgan was accused of being the mastermind behind the plot.

    According to testimony from two former Board of Election officials who pled guilty, Morgan ordered Democratic officials and workers to fake the names and signatures that Obama and Clinton needed to qualify for the presidential race. Blythe, then a Board of Elections employee and Democratic Party volunteer, was accused of forging multiple pages of the Obama petitions.

    "I think this helped uphold the integrity of the electoral system," the prosecutor, Stan Levco told reporters.

    “Their verdict of guilt is not a verdict against Democrats, but for honest and fair elections,” he said.

    The scheme was hatched in January of 2008, according to affidavits from investigators who cite former Board of Registration worker Lucas Burkett, who told them he was in on the plan at first, but then became uneasy and quit. He waited three years before telling authorities about it, but if revelations about any forgeries were raised during the election, the petitions could have been challenged during the contest. A candidate who did not qualify with enough legitimate signatures at the time, could have been bounced from the ballot.

    The case raise questions about whether in 2008, then candidate Obama actually submitted enough legitimate signatures to have legally qualified for the primary ballot.

    “I think had they been challenged successfully, he probably would not have been on the ballot,” Levco told Fox News.

    Under state law, presidential candidates need to qualify for the primary ballots with 500 signatures from each of the state's nine congressional districts. Indiana election officials say that in St. Joseph County, which is the 2nd Congressional district, the Obama campaign qualified with 534 signatures; Clinton's camp had 704.

    Prosecutors say that in President Obama's case, nine of the petition pages were apparently forged. Each petition contains up to 10 names, making a possible total of 90 names, which, if faked, could have brought the Obama total below the legal limit required to qualify. Prosecutors say 13 Clinton petitions were apparently forged, meaning up to 130 possibly fake signatures. Even if 130 signatures had been challenged, it would have still left Mrs. Clinton with enough signatures to meet the 500 person threshold.

    Levco said a total of “100 to 200” signatures had been forged on Obama’s and Clinton’s petitions.

    An Indiana State Police investigator said in court papers that the agency examined the suspect Obama petitions and "selected names at random from each of the petition pages and contacted those people directly. We found at least one person (and often multiple people) from each page who confirmed that they had not signed" petitions "or given consent for their name and/or signature to appear."

    Numerous voters told Fox News that they never signed the petitions.

    "That's not my signature," Charity Rorie, a mother of four, told us when we showed her the Obama petition with her name and signature. She was stunned, saying that it "absolutely" was a fake.

    Charity told Fox News that her husband's entry was also a forgery, and that they have never been contacted by investigators or any authorities looking into the scandal.

    "It's scary, it's shocking. It definitely is illegal," she told us.

    Robert Hunter, Jr. told Fox news that his name was faked, too.

    "I did not sign for Barack Obama," he told us. As he examined the Obama petition in his hands, Hunter pointed out that "I always put 'Junior' after my name, every time...there's no 'Junior' there

    Even a former Democratic Governor of Indiana, Joe Kernan, told Fox News that his name was forged.

    “This is a bitter sweet moment for free and fair elections," observed Ryan Nees, the Indiana born Yale “University senior who first exposed the scheme in the independent political newsletter, Howey Politics Indiana and South Bend Tribune.

    Nees said the multiple guilty verdicts were "bitter, because a five-person conspiracy succeeded in illegally placing two presidential candidates on the ballot, but sweet because they were exposed, tried for their crimes, and convicted."

    Nees previously told Fox News that the fraud was clearly evident, "because page after page of signatures are all in the same handwriting," and that nobody raised any red flags "because election workers in charge of verifying their validity were the same people faking the signatures."
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    we knew it all along!

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    Right up there by Shitcago...they're all shitheads up there!!

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    Yeah we all knew they cheated already but no one will do anything about it.
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    There has to be something that can be done with these assholes, They should be removed from office as well as the vice idoit, And then turn it over to Romney & Co. and all laws that were enacted by obama should then be considered nul and void, due to the fact he was placed on the ballot under Illegal proceedures, But you cant tell me that know one else knew about this shit in Dc, and they should be prosecuted as well and removed from politics and Jailed,,And as a Bonus prize he can have biden and fienstien and schumer as cell mates, lets see how well they can run from the real Politicans of the Prision Yard!!, ((( Maybe a Petition on we the people might get some attention, espically take a snapshot of the page when its all done and as soon as the White House takes it Down take it to the news Media and let them ask what happened? it could become very interesting!!!...Doc

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcholl View Post
    There has to be something that can be done with these assholes, They should be removed from office as well as the vice idoit, And then turn it over to Romney & Co. and all laws that were enacted by obama should then be considered nul and void, due to the fact he was placed on the ballot under Illegal proceedures, But you cant tell me that know one else knew about this shit in Dc, and they should be prosecuted as well and removed from politics and Jailed,,And as a Bonus prize he can have biden and fienstien and schumer as cell mates, lets see how well they can run from the real Politicans of the Prision Yard!!, ((( Maybe a Petition on we the people might get some attention, espically take a snapshot of the page when its all done and as soon as the White House takes it Down take it to the news Media and let them ask what happened? it could become very interesting!!!...Doc
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    I sent a copy of this to some friends of mine last night who have online blogs, and whom do freelance reporting and while they are all open minded, they all dislike the Current administration and what it stands for and what they have done let alone the dishonesty that has occured durining this administation. and they are not the type of people who just stand around and leave things alone. they are kinda like a kid who picks at a wound to get the scab off too see what is exactily underneath the crusty coverup!...Doc
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    Oh imagine that. Voter fraud in the favor of the Messiah... I have a feeling lord Eric Holder wasn't the one pushing for this conviction...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abukai08 View Post
    Oh imagine that. Voter fraud in the favor of the Messiah... I have a feeling lord Eric Holder wasn't the one pushing for this conviction...
    Hi Abukai,
    This whole thing is a bit mind bending to say the least , But how many people honestly believe that these are the only few involved, there is no way possible. it takes alot of people to get signatures, who knows what the campagine workers were told to do on getting signatures and how to obtain them, Do I smell a rat of course I do. Just about every President that has held office, weather they were criminal in nature, scandalious affairs with hollywood starlets, or getting thier weaseal waxed on the oval office desk.
    I will bet my stach of jelly & glazed Donuts and the 40 xases of beer I have stached that these are not the only offenders to election and or Ballot Fruad , The we have the Birther situation. and the many disagreements placed by the Presidents front men. What I find totally amazing is that men will do anything to anyone and say anthing to get appointed to the Highest Political Position in United States of America, they will , Lie, Cheat,and Steal, But will they Murder? a innocent person to obtain this office that will slowly increase your health problems. What is so great about having to take an office by dishonest measures, yes politices is not a dirty bussiness, it is a filthy dirty discusting scrape the bottom f the barrel lets screw them in the back type bussness, ( far worse than any mafia cases, or auto dealerships.) But since we now have this serious problem of voter signature fruad, this entire administration should be placed under a microscope and examined throughly, for attempting this Now ther is sufficent cause to check all campagine workers, and interview all the signatories of the Ballot Form and get a sampleof thier hand writting for comparrison, Ill bet that this goes so much deeper than we can even comprehend, And why they are in offfice is the time to do an investgation and use Investigators that will not be bought off or discreated by the Governements Witness's, that do not know anything in the first place,this is an old tactic of thiers. In My humble Opinion there has to be a ligitmate site of page somewhere that can be signed and hearing be held into the illegal activities in the obama administration , and Im certain that there will be more than Watergate everthought of, and Im positive that its a whole lot bigger and thier are alot more players. Maybe the Federal RICO Criminal Statues Could apply in this case would'nt that just be lovely!...Doc

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    I got the torches, anyone have the pitchforks? Lets get the tar and the feathers ready! Anyone? Shoot, I'm thinking in a different time frame I guess. One can only dream right?

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