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    Default New Rifle Mimics Machine Gun's Rapid Fire -- and It's Legal



    • CNNMoney.com - New rifle mimics machine gun




    NEW YORK -- Machine guns are illegal in the U.S. for most people, but one small company has found a way around that.

    Slide Fire, based in Moran, Texas, plans to sell a semiautomatic rifle that mimics the rapid fire of a machine gun and is also fed bullets from a belt, which provides a huge capacity for ammunition -- potentially thousands of rounds.

    Brandon Renner, sales and marketing manager for Slide Fire, says the belt-fed rifle, called the SFS BFR, will be available this fall and sell for $6,000.

    "It sprays like a fire hose," said Renner. "We recommend no more than 30 rounds on the belt, but one person could make it as big as they want."

    Can that be legal?

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says yes, since it's still technically a semiautomatic.

    The key is that of the pieces that make up a gun, the ATF regulates only the "receiver." It's the only piece that has a serial number and the only one that requires a background check to purchase. Slide Fire modifies the trigger and the stock -- the butt of the gun that sits against the shooter's shoulder.

    Slide Fire's technology uses the recoil of the rifle shot to "bump" the gun, speeding up the rate of fire without changing the gun's classification as a semiautomatic, which requires that only one round is fired each time the trigger is pulled.

    In a 2010 letter posted on Slide Fire's website, the ATF wrote: "We find that the 'bump-stock' is a firearm part and is not regulated as firearm under the Gun Control Act or the National Firearms act."

    "I can confirm that ATF did approve the device referenced in the letter and that the Slide Fire is legal," said ATF spokesman Christopher Amon.

    Slide Fire already sells bump-stocks for $370 that speed up the rate of fire for semiautomatics. The company also sells semiautomatic rifles that have already been accessorized for bump-fire, costing between $1,150 to $1,950. But these guns use magazines, not belts, and thus have limited ammo capacity.

    A spokeswoman for Wal-Mart (WMT), one of the largest gun sellers in America, said the company does not sell Slide Fire products, and will not be offering the belt-fed rifle.

    Another major dealer, Cabela's (CAB), did not return messages from CNNMoney about Slide Fire. But the company's website listed Slide Fire products for sale.

    James Hill, owner of the Abilene Indoor Gun Range, located about 50 miles away from Slide Fire's headquarters, said he sells the company's bump-fire accessories and they're quite popular with his customers.

    But Hill, who referred to the Slide Fire products as "a poor man's machine gun," doesn't plan to sell the belt-fed gun, because he doesn't believe there will be much of a demand for it.

    He said the Slide Fire rifle is a bit more challenging to fire than a fully automatic weapon, but the "learning curve" can be corrected with a bit of practice.

    "It's not as easy [as full auto], but it's fairly idiot proof," he said.

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    sooner or later were going to see laws addressing these . mark my words .

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    they already have ruled one maker's bump fire stock a NFA item.. it was that 10/22 stock.. it had a spring installed and ATF first said it was fine, then they changed their mind and said it was a MG... turn them in.. sad but true... B2B

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    B2B your talking about the Akin Accelerator
    "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem" Ronald Reagan

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    News items like these with gun store morons stating "sprays like a firehose" doesn't help our cause much either. I guess "get em' while you can" if you want them. Besides, can "bumpfire" some of mine without a Slidefire anyway. Heck a rubberband wrapped around the mag and trigger works on some. A suppressor? Heck a plastic soda bottle, duck tape and loose cotton works as well. These NFA restrictions are kind of idiotic but that's life.
    When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America , you get a front row seat. - George Carlin


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    sure shoot up that precious ammo at the wind in simulated full-auto!

    make obama happy!

    my guess is obongo is letting these things slide for now just to waste the ammo stockpile of the population.

    you think ammo is expensive and hard to get now? obongo ain't out of office yet-- he has got plenty of time to put the screws to us-- and plenty more false-flags to spring on the sheeple!

    he is going to do some shit that will cut of ALL ammo and imports from russia-- you see he has got a sore bumm and a hard-on for putin since that syria war didn't happen-- so he is going to try to get back at russia and the firearms people in the US at the same time.

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    Personal opinion. Seems like a waste of money. You would ONLY use this for novelty time at the range. No one would use this for "real" use since you are losing some control of your weapon. Meaning you are wasting you ammo. Ammo being so expensive these days, I would rather NOT do something like that. Only for fun time at the range... and nowadays it seems that is becoming cost prohibitive.

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    rubber bands are cheaper or follow dutigafs homemade design

    build don't buy

    sad to say Big Gun is probably right, this will be part of a long list of items in the next round of executive orders
    Sprat and sprat1 are one and the same.

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    IMO ...big waste of ammo. need to stay in practice and try out the newly finished ones but blatant waste of ammo for a grin to me is a sin. we already cant put more than 7 in the mag (n.y. sucks) and how long would that last with a bumpfire???

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    Ite there slaes reps who go around saying it shoots like a bullet hose .

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...loopholes.html

    the videos only hurt us more .

    just because its legal dosent make it a good idea .

    sooner or later one of these will end up at homicide an Semi autos will get front page bad PR again .

    The link is from a UK sight BTW

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