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    Default now the atf is selling hand grenades across the border

    Just woke up to the morning news. They let some guy smuggle grenades into Mexico. Wtf is next

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    Nice. Around here all I can find is flash-bangs.
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    That's not fair!!! I want some!!
    Enforcement, NOT Amnesty!!!!!!

    "If they’re going to come here illegally, apply for & receive assistance through a corrupted Government agency encouraging this lawless behavior, work under the table & send billions of dollars each year back to their families in Mexico, while bleeding local economies dry, protest in our streets waving their Mexican flags DEMANDING rights, while I have to press ’1′ for English, then they need to be shipped back to where they came from!" -Chad Miller

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    i'm pretty sure there are some RPGs, AT-4s, stingers and m203s that was sold by that US goberment/BATF "pawn-shop" to the zetas as well as those dreaded AKs and .50 bmgs the government was so worried about.

    to me it looks like a CIA operation to topple the mexican government more than a "gun control" effort.

    some of obammas pals must want obama to be king of mexico after this term is up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by j427x View Post
    i'm pretty sure there are some RPGs, AT-4s, stingers and m203s that was sold by that US goberment/BATF "pawn-shop" to the zetas as well as those dreaded AKs and .50 bmgs the government was so worried about.

    to me it looks like a CIA operation to topple the mexican government more than a "gun control" effort.

    some of obammas pals must want obama to be king of mexico after this term is up??
    No, they want him to be "Supreme Dictator of the Americas"!!
    Enforcement, NOT Amnesty!!!!!!

    "If they’re going to come here illegally, apply for & receive assistance through a corrupted Government agency encouraging this lawless behavior, work under the table & send billions of dollars each year back to their families in Mexico, while bleeding local economies dry, protest in our streets waving their Mexican flags DEMANDING rights, while I have to press ’1′ for English, then they need to be shipped back to where they came from!" -Chad Miller

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    Odd I heard haven't seen any more on the (mainstream news) programs

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    LINk TO ANY OF THIS?

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    According to a Justice Department "Significant Incident Report" filed Tuesday and obtained by CBS News, evidence connects one of the grenades to Jean Baptiste Kingery, an alleged firearms trafficker U.S. officials allowed to operate for years without arresting despite significant evidence that he was moving massive amounts of grenade parts and ammunition to Mexico's ruthless drug cartels.

    Read the Significant Incident Report

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    The gun battle took place last week in Guadalajara. Authorities say five members of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel used at least nine firearms and ten hand grenades against Mexican police. If one of the grenades was supplied with the help of Kingery, as believed, it adds to the toll of lives taken with weapons trafficked by suspects U.S. officials watched but did not stop.

    The Kingery case was overseen by the same Arizona U.S. Attorney and ATF office that let suspects traffic thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels in the operation dubbed Fast and Furious. The strategy was to try to get to the cartel kingpins, but it was halted after CBS News reported that Fast and Furious weapons were used by cartel thugs in the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry on December 15, 2010. Weapons trafficked by other ATF suspects under surveillance were used two months later in the cartel murder of Immigration and Customs Agent Jaime Zapata in Mexico on February 15, 2011.

    On Wednesday, ATF told CBS News it has "no information" about the Kingery connection to last week's gun battle in Mexico.

    As CBS News previously reported, documents show ATF began watching Kingery in "2004 related to AK47 purchases" he was believed to be trafficking to Mexico.

    In 2009, ATF also learned Kingery was dealing in grenades; weapons of choice for Mexico's killer cartels. Documents show they developed a secret plan to let him smuggle parts to Mexico in early 2010 and follow him to his factory. Some ATF agents vehemently objected, worried that Kingery would disappear once he crossed the border into Mexico. That's exactly what happened.

    Kingery resurfaced several months later in 2010, trying to smuggle a stash of grenade bodies and ammunition into Mexico, but was again let go when prosecutors allegedly said they couldn't build a good case. In 2011, Mexican authorities finally raided Kingery's factory and arrested him -- they say he confessed to teaching cartel members how to build grenades and convert semi-automatic weapons to automatic. The Justice Department has not provided an update on whether it's trying to extradite Kingery to the U.S., and an ATF spokesman said on Wednesday that he doesn't know the status of his case.

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    Thousands of weapons? Crap! Fry hem

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