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    Gitmo's other secret CIA facility: Penny Lane
    ADAM GOLDMAN, AP

    WASHINGTON (AP) In the early years after 9/11, the CIA turned some Guantanamo Bay prisoners into double agents then sent them home to help the U.S. kill terrorists, current and former U.S. officials said.

    The CIA promised the prisoners freedom, safety for their families and millions of dollars from the agency's secret accounts.

    It was a risky gamble. Officials knew there was a chance that some prisoners might quickly spurn their deal and kill Americans.

    For the CIA, that was an acceptable risk in a dangerous business. For the American public, which was never told, the program was one of the many secret trade-offs the government made on its behalf. At the same time the government used the risk of terrorism to justify imprisoning people indefinitely, it was releasing dangerous people from prison to work for the CIA.

    The program was carried out in a secret facility built a few hundred yards from the administrative offices of the prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The eight small cottages were hidden behind a ridge covered in thick scrub and cactus.

    The program and the handful of men who passed through these cottages had various official CIA code names.

    But those who were aware of the cluster of cottages knew it best by its sobriquet: Penny Lane.

    It was a nod to the classic Beatles song and a riff on the CIA's other secret facility at Guantanamo Bay, a prison known as Strawberry Fields.

    Nearly a dozen current and former U.S officials described aspects of the program to The Associated Press. All spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the secret program publicly by name, even though it ended in about 2006.

    Some of the men who passed through Penny Lane helped the CIA find and kill many top al-Qaida operatives, current and former U.S. officials said. Others stopped providing useful information and the CIA lost touch with them.

    When prisoners began streaming into Guantanamo Bay in January 2002, the CIA recognized it as an unprecedented opportunity to identify sources. That year, 632 detainees arrived at the detention center. The following year 117 more arrived.

    "Of course that would be an objective," said Emile Nakhleh, a former top CIA analyst who spent time in 2002 assessing detainees but who did not discuss Penny Lane. "It's the job of intelligence to recruit sources."

    By early 2003, Penny Lane was open for business.

    Candidates were ushered from the confines of prison to Penny Lane's relative hominess, officials said. The cottages had private kitchens, showers and televisions. Each had a small patio.

    Some prisoners asked for and received pornography. One official said the biggest luxury in each cottage was the bed not a military-issued cot but a real bed with a mattress.

    The cottages were designed to feel more like hotel rooms than prison cells, and some CIA officials jokingly referred to them collectively as the Marriott.

    Current and former officials said dozens of prisoners were evaluated but only a handful, from a variety of countries, were turned into spies who signed agreements to work for the CIA.

    CIA spokesman Dean Boyd declined to comment.

    The U.S. government says it has confirmed that about 16 percent of former Guantanamo Bay detainees rejoined the fight against America. Officials suspect but have not confirmed that 12 percent more rejoined.

    It's not clear whether the men from Penny Lane are included in those figures. But because only a small number of people went through the program, it would not likely change the figures significantly either way. None of the officials interviewed by the AP knew of an instance in which any double agent killed Americans.

    Though the number of double agents recruited through Penny Lane was small, the program was significant enough to draw keen attention from President George W. Bush, one former official said. Bush personally interviewed a junior CIA case officer who had just returned home from Afghanistan, where the agency typically met with the agents.
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    i suspect that most of those agents were double-agents that swap sides every other day.

    the quality would be about like 'lee harvy oswald". not worth the gun-powder ya know what i mean?--

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    Story's probably true. On GoogleEarth there is eight identical structures app 5 miles north by west of windmill beach.
    As for Oswald, as far as I'm concerned, the only bad things he did was make a martyr out of the whore in the WhiteHouse and give us Johnson as President.
    I've always subscibed to what has become known as the Jodie Foster theory of why he shot JFK. I just think he wanted to impress either the Russians or the Cubans with what he could do.

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    I got that from the Comcast home page, didn't here anything on the TV news until about an hour ago.



    Yeah I bet those guys they used were playing both sides of the fence
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    SO WHY DOES THE MEDIA NEED TO REPORT THIS ? HOW ABOUT TOMORROW THEY GIVE OUT OUR NUKE CODES AN WERE OUR BATTEL SHIPS AN AIR CRAFT CRAFT CARRIERS NEXT WEEK AN MAYBE A SHOW ON OUR LATEST TOP SECRET PLANE THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN .

    SOME THINGS NEED TO BE A SECRET AN I DONT NEED TO KNOW NOR DOES OUR ENEMYS .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coils View Post
    I got that from the Comcast home page, didn't here anything on the TV news until about an hour ago.



    Yeah I bet those guys they used were playing both sides of the fence
    Sure they were Coils, playing both sides of the fence.. That is all part of the spook program, I guess, since man first started hitting each other in the head with rocks..
    -Cave Man one to Cave Man two.. "Hey go tell cave man 3 to come out of his cave, I swear to God I wont drop a boulder on his head."
    -Cave Man two. "Now why the f$%k did you drop that boulder on his head. "I lied."

    "The Real James Bond"
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Tazelaar.html

    "The Real James Bond"
    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/SSpopov.htm

    Now your in a cold dark cell, they make you an offer you can't refuse.. "Want to make some money, or die?"
    Their is humor in that sad thing called war... Either Tazelaar or Popov. One of them, spent the entire German budget set aside by the German Military for espionage, gambling and chasing women. He? was more loyal to the British and gave the Germans a tid bit or two..
    But the scenes you see in James Bond Ian Fleming, "Gambling, Woman chasing" were all part of the game..
    "Man needs but two things to survive alone in the woods. A blow up female doll and his trusty old AK-47" - Thomas Jefferson 1781


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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter_02 View Post
    Story's probably true. On GoogleEarth there is eight identical structures app 5 miles north by west of windmill beach.
    As for Oswald, as far as I'm concerned, the only bad things he did was make a martyr out of the whore in the WhiteHouse and give us Johnson as President.
    I've always subscibed to what has become known as the Jodie Foster theory of why he shot JFK. I just think he wanted to impress either the Russians or the Cubans with what he could do.
    I just finished Stephen Hunters latest novel about that...he makes more sense in a fiction book than real life.

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    OK I'll keep everything a secret for now on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coils View Post
    OK I'll keep everything a secret for now on
    I laughed out loud at this. Absolutely beautiful!!

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