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    Looks like Russian will put the squeeze on the new Ukraine Republic by shutting off the taps:

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    Ukrainian Protesters Topple Statue Of Vladimir Lenin In Kiev



    Ukrainian opposition protesters pulled down a statue of Lenin in central Kiev as hundreds of thousands took to the streets in the latest display of anger at President Viktor Yanukovich’s rejection of closer ties with Europe.

    Protesters used ropes to topple the monument, and several then scrambled onto the podium to plant Ukrainian and European flags. Hundreds gathered around to sing the national anthem and chanting “Yanukovich, you’re next”.

    A huge crowd formed, desperate to catch a glimpse of the fallen Bolshevik leader, while passing cars beeped their horns in support. Some took hammers to the fallen statue in an attempt to smash it to pieces and claim souvenirs.

    Continued: http://thedaleygator.wordpress.com/2...in-kiev-video/


    Black Blade: Word is that Russia may now send troops to "reestablish order". Hmmm...
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    If this could not start a new cold war, then I don't know what could. Russia cannot afford to loose control over Ukraine so they can still sell gas through them to EU at high prices and so on.

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    Ukraine President Flees Kiev After “Coup D’Etat” As Protesters Storm Presidential Palace, Plunder Gold; Army On Hold

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    It has been a busy night in the Ukraine.

    First, the newly-installed interior minister declared that the police were now behind the protesters they had fought for days, giving central Kiev the look of a war zone with 77 people killed, while central authority crumbled in western Ukraine. Then despite yesterday’s latest anti-crisis “agreement” which we said would last at best hours, the protesters continued their pressure against embattled president Yanukovich, demanding his outright and unconditional resignation, leading to his fleeing Kiev by airplane overnight to the far more pro-Russian city of Kharkiv located in the Eastern Ukraine, even as his arch rival, Yulia Tymoshenko, who is held in prison in the same city, was rumored to have been released on her way to the far more anti-Russian city of Kiev – it turns out those rumors have so far been incorrect.

    Then there was a plethora of rumors that he has or is about to either escape the country and/or resign, sparking celebrations in Kiev, only for him to appear on TV subsequently and not only deny a resignation is coming, but that he accused the current leaders in Kiev of staging a coup d’etat and that all parliamentary decisions today have been illegitimate, saying “I did all I could to avoid bloodshed” while comparing recent events in the Ukraine to the “Fascist Revolution” in Germany. This was promptly rebutted by the Polish foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski who tweeted there is no coup in Kiev and President Viktor Yanukovych has 24 hours to sign re-adopted 2004 constitution into law.

    The just released interview is below:

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    Russia Angered At Ukraine Government Vote To Remove President After “I Won’t Resign” Comments

    zerohedge.com / Tyler Durden / 02/22/2014

    Remember that (laughable) agreement that was signed less than 24 hours ago and was grandly endorsed by all European nations, and which delineated the next legal presidential election sometime between September and December? Good times.

    With 328 (of the 450 seats) voting in favor, the Ukraine parliament has agreed to removed President Viktor Yanukovych:

    *UKRAINIAN PARLIAMENT VOTES TO REMOVE PRESIDENT YANUKOVYCH
    *UKRAINIAN PARLIAMENT VOTES TO HOLD EARLY ELECTIONS ON MAY 25

    “Yanukovych, in an illegal manner, removed himself from his constitutional duties,” Turchynov says in chamber before vote. The Russians are not at all happy with Siluanov exclaiming these actions “pose a direct threat to Ukraine’s sovereignty and constitutional order.”

    As Martin Armstrong warns:

    I believe the nation will survive divided for there is far too much resentment to simply put this all behind and walk forward. Divide Ukraine along the historical language faultline and there is a chance to calm things down. Otherwise, this will flare up and take others with it.

    My position is consistent – ALL governments are only a necessary evil. They should never be allowed to have such power over the people for it will also be abused to sustain that same power. It does not matter what form of government – they are all the same.
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    Black Blade: Supposedly Russia could "intervene" according to some reports. Apparently the Russians are waiting until the Olympics come to an end before making any move. Could get interesting.
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    Look What Was Found In Yanukovych’s Compound

    zerohedge.com / by Tyler Durden on 02/22/2014 13:02

    Among the items plundered from Yanukovych’s compound (after he fled to Kharkov)…

    More than a handful wanted in…









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    Black Blade: Yep, dictators live life a lot different than the peasants.
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    Ukraine Calls Russia’s Bluff, Slashes Nat Gas Imports By 80%



    zerohedge.com / by Tyler Durden / 02/25/201

    Twice in recent years, Russia has suspended gas supplies, or notably raised prices, as the somewhat well-known “trump card” of Russia’s oil and gas supply to Ukraine (and Europe for that matter) remains Putin’s easiest option for clenching his iron-first against the divided nation. Following a pre-emptive move in November by Ukraine to diversify its energy supply, Russia had reduced the price of gas for the highly indebted Ukraine in December (to entice Ukraine under Russia’s wing); but, after recent events, Dmitry Medvedev signaled on Monday that the price could be raised again. However, today we find that Ukraine’s state oil and gas company, Naftogaz, has slashed gas imports from Russia’s Gazprom by stunning 80% in February as Ukraine tries to show Russia it can’t be pushed around… of course, with limited (and more expensive) alternative supplies, we fear this could well shoot them in the foot.

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    Black Blade: Things are heating up over there. If it goes "hot" say bye-bye to milsurp ammo.
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    It’s On: Putin Deploys Troop Battalion: Russians Raise Flag Over Ukranian Republic of Crimea




    shtfplan.com / By Mac Slavo / February 24th, 2014

    A couple of weeks ago President Barack Obama joined Bob Costas in an interview during the opening ceremonies of the Winter Olympic games being held in Sochi, Russia. The President, who didn’t attend the ceremony or games with other world leaders, chalked off his absence to his busy schedule. Obama sent a delegation in his stead that consisted of various gay and lesbian members, which was an obvious political move intended to highlight America’s outrage over Russia’s recent anti-gay legislation.

    Though the President claimed in his interview that his relationship with Russian head of state Vladimir Putin was warm, one can’t help but wonder if things between the United States and Russia have soured significantly. A week after claiming he had too much to do and couldn’t support America’s athletes at the games, Obama took athree day golfing junket with buddies.

    Then, out of nowhere, just as Vladimir Putin prepared to showcase his $51 billion games to the world, rioting and rebellion broke out in neighboring Ukraine. Some might say that it is pure coincidence, but as Franklin Roosevelt once opined, “”in politics, nothing happens by accident.” Within days of the uprisings investigations began to reveal that U.S. covert operations groups more than likely played a role.

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    These guys went through about 4 boxes of AK-47 rounds here.

    I wonder what our government intends to accomplish with BILLIONS of rounds?
    M U S I B I K E

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    Ah Civil war, been expecting that for a spell.


    Where is the "Outlaw Josie Waleshenko" when ya need em?

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