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#1 ·
What do you all think the probability is that we will have a REAL confrontation with IRAN? Would it happen this year? Will RUSSIA and the rest of the middle East join in? Will the South American countries get in on the deal?

MUSIBIKE
 
#337 ·
Folks: Time for a little history lesson. WMD: the point is missed in WMD discussion, the problem was, and is still, certain outcome, uncertain time line, original pre-Iraq, certain minimum 3 way nuclear war, Iran, Iraq, Israel, plus potential of additional players. Saddam swallowed the Kuwait bait, we did in very few days what Iran was unable to even begin in several years. The technology has not diminished any since.

The timetable now tighter. North Korea now admitted test of Fusion trigger should be a serious wake-up, since Iran, from TRR 5 mw reactor, has now two fuel cycles, 40+ years of 0.6 kg element 239 annual byproduct production, and chemical separation technology undeclared was found IAEA @ 2003 unclass Senate report? Israel "discussion" recent with CCCP concerning the contract explosive lens technicians no small point, nor is possible kh 55? alleged transfers, Artic Sea again? moving the key bail jumper out of Cyprus of the recent spy transfer, without debriefing??!! Protecting???? I digress.

last fal Qum find 6800 gal heavy water, Iran mines Lithium. Google US Nuclear test Bravo, for casing details, strange coincidence @ 20%, same level Iran now producing,

Meanwhile, CIA is officially clueless, feeding MSM stories of how Iran is 2 years away from a nuclear bomb. That may be true. 95% HEU version. It's the 2nd gen, 239 version bravo class that's not discussed.

Things have changed since early 1950's

Consider: now we have computers replacing slide rules. Now we have digital electronics.
Now we have helpful neighbors (russian) helping design the necessary explosive lenses.
Also neighbors (North Korea) with testing platform, and the airborne isotopes were either a fusion trigger or incredible careless use of very badly cracked and leaking fuel rods.
Now we have CNC machining centers.

Maybe someone is going to get a very serious wake up call. Iran desire to purchase 4 devices from Pakistan reported rebuffed, but if all they need is 4 to ensure the return of the Imam from the 7th century well, very possible they already have ALL the fixings for perhaps that many Bravo class.

But here is some hope:

The 1-2 thousand top money makers in Iran have accumulated enough, bypassing the embargo serious money, to retire very comfortably out of the country. If most "retire" and go, Iran will undergo regime change, without the terrible for all price likely to be paid.

4 weapons: possible targets are Israel, Germany, Britain, US.

2 fuel cycles @ 25 kg? element 239? question of recovery % not minor, unknown here.

There is in the Muslim lore the dicturm:" Islam will survive so long as mecca survives"

I'd like to vote on a new, very warm, glass version of mecca with a built in for several hundred years, a glass clad warranty of cancer for only the price of visiting.
 
#343 ·
recent dots

Within certain period, 4 ohio class converted to tomahawks (100%) forward deployed, for first time, b-2, f-22 qty forward deployed, perhaps with the new deep penetrator load of 1 only.

In past @ 2 weeks, Iron Dome (Israel) has come on line. Patriot Batteries
Kuwait, UAE, Saudi now active and ready.

Here in US, shortage of general anesthesia drugs and burn ointments in supply pipeline to hospitals and pharmacies, (who is stockpiling?)

This weekend stories all around not encouraging.

Why has russia upped the ante by starting the fueling this week?

I've had for a while now concerns about Iran's spent fuel rods from the Teheran 5mw "medical resarch" reactor. Google US Test Bravo, for details.

Possible Iran, IF THEY RETAINED THE SPENT FUEL (no data), has sufficient plutonium for 4-6 triggers, which with 20% HEU, get interesting.

Disruption of oil only one result. Somewhere 50 nuclear weapons are enough to ensure a nuclear winter of 2-4 years duration, which fact, once accepted, went a long way to end the MAD doctrine dominance.

Even without Katla blowing on long term schedule, summer and winter @ 1816 may repeat. FAMINE, world wide.

Short season seeds and soil amendments for next year!!!

Can this be de-railed? One option might be 1000 tomahawks, two per target, time on target friday prayers on the 500 most popular mosques with the Iran leadership and military. A de-cap strike, non-nuclear.

Think Obama would be up for it?
 
#344 ·
Within certain period, 4 ohio class converted to tomahawks (100%) forward deployed, for first time, b-2, f-22 qty forward deployed, perhaps with the new deep penetrator load of 1 only.

In past @ 2 weeks, Iron Dome (Israel) has come on line. Patriot Batteries
Kuwait, UAE, Saudi now active and ready.

Here in US, shortage of general anesthesia drugs and burn ointments in supply pipeline to hospitals and pharmacies, (who is stockpiling?)

This weekend stories all around not encouraging.

Why has russia upped the ante by starting the fueling this week?

I've had for a while now concerns about Iran's spent fuel rods from the Teheran 5mw "medical resarch" reactor. Google US Test Bravo, for details.

Possible Iran, IF THEY RETAINED THE SPENT FUEL (no data), has sufficient plutonium for 4-6 triggers, which with 20% HEU, get interesting.

Disruption of oil only one result. Somewhere 50 nuclear weapons are enough to ensure a nuclear winter of 2-4 years duration, which fact, once accepted, went a long way to end the MAD doctrine dominance.

Even without Katla blowing on long term schedule, summer and winter @ 1816 may repeat. FAMINE, world wide.

Short season seeds and soil amendments for next year!!!

Can this be de-railed? One option might be 1000 tomahawks, two per target, time on target friday prayers on the 500 most popular mosques with the Iran leadership and military. A de-cap strike, non-nuclear.

Think Obama would be up for it?


Iran MIGHT have enough partially processed fuel for a couple of small 5-10 Kiloton atomic weapons but they are probably 50 years away from being able to put together even one workable thermonuclear device. There will be no nuclear winter from a couple of small atomic weapons.
 
#345 ·
The first end times war won't involve nukes. Just conventional. If Russia don't hand IRAN these toys to play with?

This war will start the hard times before the antichrist appears and offers a deal with ISRAEL to bind world PEACE. Which is just after the RAPTURE.

This war will just kill a few thousand people and damage a lot of property.

The NUKE wars happen after the first half of the tribulation. And, at Armagedon.

Nobody is CRAZY enough to turn Earth into a radioactive waste dump until EVIL is completely released through the evacuation of the Holy Spirit plus all believers. Until the Rapture, Evil will have binding enough to prevent a full scale world wide Nuke activation.

I think we will see major conventional war come to pass any time now though.
 
#346 ·
If the rapture occurs, who give a flying flack about the rest?

Nothing (nuclear included) is as powerful as will be the rapture. And you're either saved or not saved as of the rapture event, so who gives a f***.
 
#348 ·
It is when these these thing start is when saved believer's redemption draws near. "NEAR" could mean months(s)? It will be easier to have provisions set up ready than not until then.

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#349 ·
^^^^
The belief in an all powerful benevolent ruler has been the undoing of countless civilizations, I see no difference in the belief in a returning savior that is to be a great and just ruler.
It flies in the face of all that is right and good in the world, the belief in such a system is repugnant to the very documents that this nation was founded upon.

With an all powerful ruler, you have no self determination.
Without self determination, you have no freedom.
Without freedom, you are a slave, nothing but cattle, and at the mercy and disposal of others.

Be very, very careful of what you wish for.

That being said, bring on the war!
 
#354 ·
But, if Israel steps up to dance, IRAQ may punch at us too. There more than likely are sleeper units place here already waiting for the signal?

I think everybody is just going to let IRAQ install these fuel rods and just complain about it. Attacking them would be a horrific deal. Israel and IRAQ would loose a quite a few folks plus, what would amount to complete infrastructure destruction for both.

No, I don't think ISRAEL will actually attack IRAN.

At least I hope not.
 
#355 ·
I suspect that MUSIBIKE means Iran (not Iraq) in his comment.
Former US Ambassador to the UN Mr Bolton gives the scenario of an attack window open until 21 Aug '10. That is when the Russians are to install the nuclear fuel into the Bashear reactor on the Persian Gulf coast of Iran.

The plot goes on to say that the Israeli Airforce will strike before the fuel is installed so little harm is done to civilians. Personally I don't see that happening with the US leftist pro-islamic regime in power. The element of surprise is gone too.

There is a third possibility that no one talks about. If the nuclear power plant in operation is revealled to be producing Plutonium it may be targetted by a nuclear cruise missile from out of the blue. A wind from the South would carry fallout toward Tehran and Russia. Gee, what a shame !!! August is a good month for nukes but after the US November elections is a more likely time frame.

VD
 
#357 ·
IRAN SYNDROME

OOPS,
I did mean IRAN in my post above.

Nobody is going to attack IRAN. So, for the time being, it will just be some RUSSIANS working for the IRAN cause.

It will just be a matter of a bit more time though. Less time now. With plenty of spent fuel rods to work with.

ISRAEL does not have their IRON DOME up yet so, they are not ready for a massive exchange after an attack anyway.

IRAN may have an accident with their hurried efforts and do the job for ISRAEL. BOOM, done the RUSSIAN way. IRAN SYNDROME!

I turned over my coffee with my KORAN. No, you were looking at my GOAT.

What does that little RED line mean that is bouncing at the top of this scale.

SHut up you FOOL I am look at my PORNO magazine.

OK fine, Live in Bliss.

Did you turn on the c ooling water pump 15 minutes ago the way I told you.

Hell no, I had to go DUMP.

WHAT! Where is all of that green colored steam coming from on the inside of the reactor chaimber?

I don't know, this GOAT pissed out there I think?

How come it is DARK in here now?

No it is not, there is a GREEN ORANGISH GLOW coming from over there in the reactor chaimber.

Did you use my turban for your toilet paper you ASS!?!?!

Wait, I was blowing my nose in it after I picked up a cool fuel rod with it in my hands.

P O W !!!!!!

I R A N S Y N D R O M E
 
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