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    Israel warships pass through Suez
    Israeli submarine in Mediterranean, 5 May, 2008
    The Israeli navy is reported to be "sending a message" to Iran

    Two Israeli warships have sailed through the Suez Canal between the Mediterranean and the Red Sea, Israeli and Egyptian officials say.

    Israeli media described the passage of the two Saar class missile boats as a "message" to Iran.

    Israel believes Iran's nuclear programme is aimed at developing nuclear weapons, something Iran denies.

    Israeli officials say an Israeli submarine used the canal in June, returning on 5 July.

    An Israeli official said deployment of the two ships was linked to the Israeli navy's "recent activities around the Red Sea".

    Correspondents say that although Israel vessels regularly use the canal, the recent moves have - unusually - been publicised by the Israelis.

    Shlomo Brom, of the Israeli Institute for National Security Studies, said: "I believe (the news) was likely leaked on purpose in order to signal to Iran that Israel has the capability of reaching them."

    Israel has said repeatedly that it will not rule out the possibility of taking military action against Iran over the nuclear issue.

    Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmad Aboul Gheit told the BBC that warships had the right to use the canal provided they had no aggressive intent towards Egypt.
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    TEHRAN (Reuters) – Newly re-elected President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday his next government "would bring down the global arrogance," signaling a tougher approach by Tehran toward the West after last month's disputed election.

    Ahmadinejad, in his first provincial trip after the June 12 presidential vote, said Iran's enemies had tried to interfere and foment aggression in the country, referring to mass opposition protests against the official election result.

    The hardline president, who often rails against the West, said the Islamic Republic wanted "logic and negotiations" but that Western powers had insulted the Iranian nation and should apologize.

    Iranian leaders often refer to the United States and its allies as the "global arrogance."

    "As soon as the new government is established, with power and authority, ten times more than before, it will enter the global scene and will bring down the global arrogance," he told a big crowd in the northeastern city of Mashhad.

    "They should wait as a new wave of revolutionary thinking ... from the Iranian nation is on the way and we will not allow the arrogant (powers) to even have one night of good sleep," Ahmadinejad said, according to state broadcaster IRIB.

    Opposition leader Mirhossein Mousavi, Ahmadinejad's main challenger in the election, says it was rigged in the incumbent's favor. The authorities reject charges of vote fraud.

    Iran has accused Britain and the United States, which have criticised a crackdown on opposition protests, of interfering in its internal affairs. London and Washington reject the charge.

    "In this recent election the enemy tried to bring the battlefront to the interior of this country," Ahmadinejad said.

    "But I have told the enemies ... that this nation ... will strike you in the face so hard you will lose your way home," he said in comments translated by English-language Press TV.

    He also voiced continued defiance in a row over Iran's disputed nuclear ambitions, saying major powers "will not be able to take away the smallest amount of Iran's rights."

    Iran says its nuclear program is for peaceful power purposes. Western countries suspect it is aimed at making bombs.

    (Reporting by Zahra Hosseinian; writing by Fredrik Dahl; editing by Philippa Fletcher)
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    On this week's edition of "The Hal Lindsey Report," we're going to stay right here in the United States. Unfortunately, it's a United States I'm recognizing less and less every day.

    One would have thought that with the election of America's first black President, the use of the race card would be greatly diminished. It seems the opposite is true. In fact, since the election of 2008, I'm hearing the charge of 'racism' thrown around more than ever before in my memory. And more often than not, those charges seem to flow from 'left' to 'right.'

    You may be surprised to learn that, contrary to popular opinion, the left may be far more racist and intolerant than the right has ever been. The strategy of the left is obvious. Broad brush everything the right believes and does as 'racist' or arising from deep-seated racism. By doing so, the liberals cow the conservatives into silence.

    In just the past few days, two major judiciary figures have come face-to-face with this issue -- and both are considered members of the far left. This suggests that perhaps the darkest racism of all lurks in the high halls of power.

    This week, I'm going to discuss the 'racism ploy' in greater detail. It may be the left's greatest tool in their struggle to limit -- or eliminate -- our right of free speech. I'll also look at the alarming growth in the use of the "hate group" label. If you're reading this e-mail, you're already considered an 'extremist' by some branches of our government. Some of you may actually be on a 'watch list.' And we'll all be muzzled by the 'hate crime' and 'hate speech' legislation pending before Congress right now. (Just today Senator Harry Reid smuggled a 'hate crimes' amendment into a defense budget bill currently before the Senate.)

    Finally, this week I'm also going to examine the impact of Roe v. Wade on the loss of respect for the sanctity of life in America -- and what that bodes for our future.

    Don't miss this week's Report on TBN, Daystar, Inspiration, CPM Network, various local stations, The Hal Lindsey Report or HisChannel - Christian TV.

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    On this week's edition of "The Hal Lindsey Report," I'll tell you about an unfortunate case that illustrates the danger of nationalized health care. I say 'unfortunate' because had the British citizen lived in the United States, his experience may have been completely different -- and almost certainly more positive.

    In a humorous, but chilling, foreshadowing of things to come, the Senate recently began dabbling in health care insurance coverage. If you smoke pot, crack cocaine, or hash, you've nothing to worry about. However, if you smoke tobacco in your pipe, you're in trouble.

    Speaking of pot, can you guess what California's number one cash crop is now? It's causing quite a stir in Sacramento. If marijuana were taxed like liquor, it could add $1.3 billion dollars per year to the state's empty coffers. Is that what the old Gold Rush prospectors meant when they proclaimed, "Thar's gold in them thar hills!"?

    As individual states (and the nation as a whole?) edge closer to legalizing certain drugs, we need to keep in mind the warning of the Apostle John in the Book of Revelation. He cites four major sins that will explode in prevalence as we approach the Tribulation -- and rampant drug use is one of them. Arguably, the other three may flow from it.

    German and Israeli intelligence sources warn that Iran is within months of testing a nuclear device. The Iranians have been attending and observing North Korea's recent flurry of missile and nuclear tests. Noting the Obama administration's lack of resolve following North Korea's grievous violation of multiple UN resolutions, Iran can only conclude that the US will do nothing to stop it from going forward. And just this week, while visiting Thailand, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton confirmed that conclusion.

    I sometimes watch these events and marvel at how short our collective memory is. Do you remember what Saddam Hussein told an interviewer after his capture? He said that he had underestimated George W. Bush. Saddam was shocked that President Bush actually invaded Iraq even though he had warned that he would. Saddam implied that he felt he could get away with anything because the Presidents before Bush had lacked the nerve to take any meaningful action. Obama's handling of North Korea and Iran remind me of a phrase I often employ: "Same song, second verse."

    One of the least secret "secret" military contingency plans on earth is Israel's pre-determined response to a nuclear attack. It's called the "Samson Option." You've heard me discuss it before. Another less familiar historical event also influences Israel's mindset toward its own last-ditch defense. It's called the "Masada Complex." Both of those plans deserve renewed attention because Israel, like never before, is being pushed into a corner. Ironically, its oldest allies and friends may force the tiny nation to employ its most desperate options.

    Finally, last Monday was the 40th anniversary of the historic first moon landing. Everybody knows Neil Armstrong's memorable words, "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." But what is almost universally unknown is that hours before Armstrong spoke those words from the lunar surface, Buzz Aldrin spoke the words of Christ and observed communion in the quiet stillness of the Lunar Module. I'll tell you that moving story.

    Don't miss this week's Report on TBN, Daystar, Inspiration, CPM Network, various local stations, The Hal Lindsey Report or HisChannel - Christian TV.

    God Bless,

    Hal Lindsey
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    On this week's edition of "The Hal Lindsey Report," I'll begin a two-part series on what I believe to be the most important verse in the most important chapter in the Bible: John 3:16. It is a summary of the very heart of all that the Bible is seeking to say.

    I first presented this series at the end of 2008 and the beginning of 2009. Since then, many of you have written to request that we air it again.

    As we enter the 'dog days of summer', it seems like the heat is cranked up everywhere. It's not just the weather that's sizzling, but it seems a lot of things are on the verge of crashing and burning: our economy, the health care industry, the banking industry, our government, foreign affairs, and the list goes on.

    During these times of great uncertainty and stress, I think it's wise to step back and refocus on the most important things in life -- our families, our health, our freedoms, our blessings, and our personal relationship with Jesus Christ. It's amazing how our perspective can be brightened when we think on these things. But there's nothing that compares to the encouragement we receive when we remember that "God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life."

    Enjoy the waning days of summer and the happy prospects of eternal life with our Lord and Savior. And don't miss this week's Report on TBN, Daystar, CPM Network, Inspiration, various local stations, The Hal Lindsey Report or HisChannel - Christian TV.

    God Bless,

    Hal Lindsey
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    I only see a war with iran in our future if they get into it with israel

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    We will leave ISRAEL to do it for themselves. Our current administration is not going to help our ally in need.

    We will be involved when IRAN sends some tasty treats in our direction. But, the old sleeping RUSSIAN BEAR might wake up and get into it as well. Usually, if you don't piss of a bear, it will just leave you alone. But, Russia, has a game plan already on the table for when the recipe gets in place to be applied.
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    Washington has given Tehran until September to respond to an offer of dialogue. The hope is that diplomacy can bring Iran back from the brink. The test will be whether it is prepared to abide by international safeguards. These would allow it to build a legitimate civilian nuclear programme, which it is doing with Russian help at Bushehr. But it would mean stricter supervision of its more suspect facilities at Natanz and Arak.

    If Iran chooses not to engage with Washington and rejects a negotiated deal on its nuclear facilities then America, Britain and France will press for harsher United Nations sanctions against Tehran. These will take effect only if Russia and China, who hold the right of veto at the UN Security Council, drop objections to tighter economic measures.

    At this point the future looks bleak. If diplomatic efforts fail and if Iran presses ahead with its ambitions, then the Middle East may be headed for the most serious conflict in decades. Israel’s policy is that it prefers a diplomatic settlement but that “all options remain on the table”. By that it means using force to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities, probably with air and missile strikes. Iran would be likely to respond and within days the region would threaten to become embroiled in a terrible war.

    Many doubt that Israel would be prepared to take such a dangerous step, particularly since experts believe that Iran has the ability to rebuild the key uranium enrichment site within two to three years.

    Who runs Iran in the coming months and years is not just a matter for Iranians.

    This is now a global issue
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    Now, TWO RUSSIAN WAR SHIPS I would guess are completely armed with NUKE missels and everything it takes to flatten the East coast are doing what the NAZI SUBS did in WWII. When the order comes to light us up, guess who will have at least a couple dozen armed Nuke Warheads ready to sing? This is RIGHT NOW my bros!

    Hezbola has 40,000 armed misles ready to pop Israel. Can't say I thought it was a good idea to pop IRAN when time were a little better? I did not say it. But, they did not act in accord?

    Everybody is poised on a trigger. But now, a real hard core trigger! Ones just sat and let it transpire to this. Now, it may be too late?

    Kind of wished it would have waited till the weather got a bit cool here in south first? However, I think the firestorm is going to erupt here anytime? Just our luck!

    Hang on tight my bros!!!!
    get ready!
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    I think it is now the calm before the storm.
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