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#1 ·
What do you all think the probability is that we will have a REAL confrontation with IRAN? Would it happen this year? Will RUSSIA and the rest of the middle East join in? Will the South American countries get in on the deal?

MUSIBIKE
 
#637 ·
DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security
India to pay gold instead of dollars for Iranian oil. Oil and gold markets stunned


DEBKAfile Exclusive Report January 23, 2012, 5:57 PM (GMT+02:00) Tags: India China sanctions Iranian oil European Union Iranian oil for IndiaIndia is the first buyer of Iranian oil to agree to pay for its purchases in gold instead of the US dollar, debkafile's intelligence and Iranian sources report exclusively. Those sources expect China to follow suit. India and China take about one million barrels per day, or 40 percent of Iran's total exports of 2.5 million bpd. Both are superpowers in terms of gold assets.

By trading in gold, New Delhi and Beijing enable Tehran to bypass the upcoming freeze on its central bank's assets and the oil embargo which the European Union's foreign ministers agreed to impose Monday, Jan. 23. The EU currently buys around 20 percent of Iran's oil exports.

The vast sums involved in these transactions are expected, furthermore, to boost the price of gold and depress the value of the dollar on world markets.
Iran's second largest customer after China, India purchases around $12 billion a year's worth of Iranian crude, or about 12 percent of its consumption. Delhi is to execute its transactions, according to our sources, through two state-owned banks: the Calcutta-based UCO Bank, whose board of directors is made up of Indian government and Reserve Bank of India representatives; and Halk Bankasi (Peoples Bank), Turkey's seventh largest bank which is owned by the government.
An Indian delegation visited Tehran last week to discuss payment options in view of the new sanctions. The two sides were reported to have agreed that payment for the oil purchased would be partly in yen and partly in rupees. The switch to gold was kept dark.

India thus joins China in opting out of the US-led European sanctions against Iran's international oil and financial business. Turkey announced publicly last week that it would not adhere to any sanctions against Iran's nuclear program unless they were imposed by the United Nations Security Council.
The EU decision of Monday banned the signing of new oil contracts with Iran at once, while phasing out existing transactions by July 1, 2012, when the European embargo, like the measure enforced by the United States, becomes total. The European foreign ministers also approved a freeze on the assets of the Central Bank of Iran which handles all the country's oil transactions.
However, the damage those sanctions cause the Iranian economy will be substantially cushioned by the oil deals to be channeled through Turkish and Indian state banks. China for its part has declared its opposition to sanctions against Iran.

debkafile's intelligence sources disclose that Tehran has set up alternative financial mechanisms with China and Russia for getting paid for its oil in currencies other than US dollars. Both Beijing and Moscow are keeping the workings of those mechanisms top secret.
 
#642 ·
Iran reports launch of small satellite into orbit

TEHRAN, Iran — Iran successfully launched a new small satellite into orbit early Friday, state media reported, the latest in the country's ambitious space program that has raised concerns because if its possible military applications.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called in to the launch site, saying he was "hopeful this act will send a signal of more friendship among all human beings," the state IRNA news agency reported.

IRNA said the home-made satellite, Navid, or Gospel, was designed to collect data on weather conditions and monitor for natural disasters.

It said the satellite weighs about 110 pounds (50 kilograms) and would orbit the earth at an altitude of up to 234 miles (375 kilometers), circling the planet 15 times a day. It's of a type known as miniaturized or microsatellites, which are cheaper to produce and allow for less costly launch vehicles.

Navid, produced at an Iranian engineering university, is the third small satellite that Iran launched over the past years and is expected to remain in orbit for about two months. The two earlier satellites — Omid, launched in 2009, and Rasad, sent into orbit in June 2011 — lasted three weeks and 82 days, respectively. IRNA said Navid has advanced control technology, a higher resolution camera and photocells to generate power.

The satellite was sent into orbit by a missile launch-vehicle dubbed Safir, or Ambassador in Farsi, which IRNA described as having 20 percent more launch power, compared to earlier versions of satellite carrier missiles.

An Iranian website, Irannuc.ir, claimed Safir was a ballistic missile that can be converted into an intercontinental missile. State TV showed footage of the launch, with a rocket sent off and turning into a light point in the darkness of the skies.

Iran's decade-old space program has raised alarms in the West, because the same technology that allows missiles to launch satellites can be used to fire warheads.
 
#646 ·
Might be a good idea to take down that sattilite now, just to "CYA", do we really know what it's capabilities might be??? Might just be part of a missle guidence system for something they just might already have built for all we know, is it worth the chance to wait to find out?? I'd be in favor of it, it surely makes me VERY aprehensive given there views!!
 
#648 ·
1 minute until midnight?


Dwindling time, rising tension make Iran top fear

WASHINGTON — The United States and its allies believe the window to stop Iran from building a bomb is quickly closing, pushing conflict with the Islamic republic to the top of the Obama administration's national security worries in the midst of an election year.

After years of diplomatic deadlock, Iran's nuclear program has advanced to the point where experts say work on a bomb could begin within a year. That progress has moved the once far-fetched possibility of a pre-emptive U.S. or Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites to the forefront of the urgent debate over how to prevent Tehran from joining the nuclear club.

The prospect of a military strike on Iran is still unlikely. The U.S. insists diplomacy and economic coercion are its main focus, and a military strike would be its last option to stop an Iranian bomb.

The United States has a "very good estimate" of when Iran could produce a weapon, President Barack Obama said this week. He said that while he believes the standoff with Iran over its nuclear program can still be resolved through diplomacy, the U.S. has done extensive planning on a range of options.

"We are prepared to exercise these options should they arise," Obama said during an interview with NBC. He said Israel has not made a decision about whether to launch its own strike.

Iran claims its nuclear program is not aimed at building a bomb, but it has refused to drop suspect elements of the program.

In November, the International Atomic Energy Agency issued a scathing assessment of the Iranian nuclear program, calling it disturbing and possibly dangerous. The IAEA, a United Nations body, said it had "serious concerns regarding possible military dimensions" of a program Iran claims is not intended to build a weapon.

Close U.S. ally Israel is driving much of the burst of international attention now focused on the likelihood of an Iranian bomb and what to do about it.
 
#651 ·
Iran Oil Ministry: Exports cut to Britain, France
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, AP
20 minutes ago


TEHRAN, Iran — Iran has halted oil shipments to Britain and France, the Oil Ministry said Sunday, in an apparent pre-emptive blow against the European Union after the bloc imposed sanctions on Iran's crucial fuel exports.

The EU imposed tough sanctions against Iran last month, which included a freeze of the country's central bank assets and an oil embargo set to begin in July. Iran's Oil Minister Rostam Qassemi had warned earlier this month that Tehran could cut off oil exports to "hostile" European nations. The 27-nation EU accounts for about 18 percent of Iran's oil exports.

"Crude oil exports to British and French companies have been halted," Oil Ministry spokesman Ali Reza Nikzad-Rahbar said on the ministry's shana.ir website. "We have our own customers and have no problem to sell and export our crude oil to new customers."

Britain's Foreign Office declined comment, and there was no immediate response from French officials.

The semiofficial Mehr news agency said crude exports were halted Sunday to the two countries. It also said the National Iranian Oil Company has sent letters to some European refineries with an ultimatum to either sign long-term contracts of two to five years or be cut off.

Mehr did not specify which countries were sent the ultimatum, but Spain, Italy and Greece are among Europe's biggest buyers of Iranian oil.

Iran's targeting of Britain and France appeared to be a political decision to punish the two countries for supporting tougher sanctions against Iran over its disputed nuclear program.
 
#659 ·
Israel is placing anti-missal battery's over the state. This is what you would expect to see before they strike Iran. Things are moving foreword despite the would telling them not to strike. Israel is facing annihilation if they don't act.

"Behold, the Day of the LORD is coming, (the coming "Apocalypse")

And your spoil will be divided in your midst.

For I (God) will gather ALL the nations to battle

against Jerusalem"

(Zechariah 14:1-2)
 
#661 ·
Hey guys thought Id chime in real quick. since someone brought up Scripture I thought it would be a good idea to point out Psalm 83. Notice this "confederation" list doesn't include Persia (Iran). Persia comes up after this Psalm 83 battle which Israel wins overwhelmingly with its "mighty army." When the battle involving Persia does come up it seems to include Russia possibly. That battle is the bad one and ends with Messiah himself coming to defeat Israels enemies. This initial confrontation will enable Israel to expand its territory into most of Egypt and Jordan and the land of other idiots that try to destroy her. Likely this imminent strike on iran will set its nuclear capabilities back a year or a few and it will wage war through its proxies (Hezbollah) on Israel and here in the US most likely. How many Hezbollah fighters are here and with what weapons smuggled through Mexico tunnels is anyone's guess. Lets give support to israel in this upcoming time of war :)
 
#662 ·
Yes we must stand with Israel, not because they are perfect and doing everything right, but because God has said that He will bless those that bless them and curse those that curse them.Genesis 12:3 Israel is God's nation!

If you don't believe the Bible, then just look at history.
 
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