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#1 ·
What do you all think the probability is that we will have a REAL confrontation with IRAN? Would it happen this year? Will RUSSIA and the rest of the middle East join in? Will the South American countries get in on the deal?

MUSIBIKE
 
#663 ·
As far back as this thread goes I'd have thought by now all hell would have broken loose in that area with "I'M- a- ditza- a- job" around, that clown is NUTS. Isreal has showed some major restraint in handling Iran in my opinion. That surprises me, I thought they'ed be all glowing by now!!! It probibly won't be much longer though before the shit hits the fan, sooner if "i'm a nuta job" stays in power much longer. Need a few magnetic bombs on that nut cases car, me thinks, get busy Massad!! Now serving # 7
 
#665 ·
Well. when they do and they pull some shit here and riot and burn-it's time to clean house! I got a letter from The Freedom Center saying that bastard in the White House has classifed the Ft Hood shooting as "work place violence"! Everybody seems to be afraid of these vermin! Every where they migrate to there is trouble. How many Christians are left in the Mideast? Take our country back from the socialist left before it's to late!
 
#666 ·
So many people here in the US are just sleeping or have their head in the sand.
They just act like nothing bad will happen to us. The west is a sleep. This is a very sad fact. I am not saying that we can change what will take place but at least stop acting foolish. Like stupid sheep being led to slaughter.

I am convinced in my heart that the Bible is the True Word of God and it alone has the answers to this life and death. I would ask everybody who dose not believe in God, but might have questions at least read for yourself the Bible and make up your own mind. Don't let TV nuts and other men who have distorted the Word to keep you from a true understanding of the Bible and Finding out what this life is all about.
 
#668 ·
That's right, Russia and China are the real threat. Meanwhile our own government is asleep to the danger that is growing, at least I hope it is because they are asleep............
 
#669 ·
VIENNA — Iran has rapidly ramped up production of higher-grade enriched uranium over the last few months, the U.N. nuclear agency said Friday, in a confidential report that feeds concerns about how quickly the Islamic republic could produce an atomic bomb.

The report by the International Atomic Energy Agency also said Iran had failed to give a convincing explanation about a quantity of missing uranium metal. Diplomats say the amount unaccounted for is large enough to be used for experiments in arming a nuclear missile.
 
#671 ·
All this nuclear bomb talk seems to be missing one major point. Hasn't anyone taken into account a dirty bomb, one little atache case type bomb would put NYC outa commission for the next 500 years!!!! I'm sure it's been discussed at higher levels and that may just be why there haven't been any strikes yet!! I think I'd be more concerned with that senario at this point and that's why I say smoke them now. Find out when all the Iranian guberment officials are all together along with I'ma- nuta -job and fire -um up!!!! Just make sure you get the rest of the EU behind you so Russia & China wouldn't dare to do anything. And screw the UN there time is past in my opinion, the've turned into just anouther major lib orginization that causes more problems than it cures as far as I'm concerned, they just want to be the worlds one dictator (new world order)?? It's going to happen at some point in time anyways, lets get it done before this country has to face anouther Pearl or Trade ctr attack. We all see how far we've gotten after the trade center attack. Wern't no pussy footing around after Pearl!!!! Do we want to get into endless "police actions" for the next, well however long it takes, to keep this country safe from the nut jobs that mean us harm? Or Strike before they can strike us or close the strights of Hormuse. A few ships stragitaclly sunken there would close the strights for years and that they could easly do. Mabye that would, FINALLY, prompt this country to develop our own resorces, and stand united, that would be one of the few up-sides to the closing of the strights, but at a terrible cost world wide. But for sure we can't just stand by with our heads stuck in the sand!! I might be wrong on this, but I have always been premptive when I've faced bullies, yup got a bloody nose a couple times but I've gotten respect and no one messed with me afterwards. And that's what this country has to decide if we are going to remain the country we've been in the past, or go the route of the EU where every one needs to be hand held and guided through life by some lib dictators, from this country or other countries. It's time for a real leader and no more political correctness and ass kissing of some third world thugs. We stand strong NOW or face the consiquences later!! That's what were facing weather or not anyone wants to admit it or not. There, I feel better after that rant!!! just my .02 for whats it's worth.
 
#672 ·
A PORTABLE NUKE like a dirty bomb would require just as much expense nearly as a full size unit for some GUBERMENT to fund. To get real fallout that can do the job needs a real criticle mass process then a real isotope fondled into a main charge. I think they will spend the $$ on a full size gift instead?
 
#673 ·
All Iran needs is one nuke placed on a shipping vessel off the east coast then they could lunch and detente 200 miles above the central US. Putting the United states in the 1800 century. That would destroy the US and keep us from fighting back.

Iran has already been testing missiles that detonate at that altitude. An EMP is a real and very destructive weapon.

We need to get to the polls this year and vote Obama out of the white house. I know that the Republican candidates are not that great, but they are much better then what we have now.
 
#675 ·
Well I know this, IRAN is spending a bunch of $$ on NUKES and weapons rather than education, feeding their children and, helping their own people. Jesus always tells us to aid one's brother and contribute to better being for all. These ISLAM fools are doing quite another main objective focus.

I give thanks for another day everyday that I am allowed. Maybe I will be given the chance to watch this END TIMES story play on out? But, one never knows? If we are made to fall asleep prior to the end for whatever reason, waking up in the face of the lord is the prestine blessing over all.

Revelation Ch 9 is about to play on the old Juke box I think bros. Hang on tight and be ready for whatever is in the cards deck.

CHEERS!!!!
 
#676 ·
Haaretz.Com Published 10:32 27.02.12
Latest update 10:32 27.02.12 Israel, Kurdish fighters destroyed Iran nuclear facility, email released by WikiLeaks claims
In exchange released by website, worker at Stratfor intelligence firm doubts validity of a source claiming an Israeli ground force had already wiped out Iran's nuclear infrastructure.
By Anshel Pfeffer and Ron Ben-Tovim
Tags: WikiLeaks Iran nuclear Iran threat

The mega-leaks website, WikiLeaks, has partnered with the hackers cooperative Anonymous, to publish internal emails of the American strategic intelligence company Stratfor. In one of the hacked emails, Stratfor officials discuss information obtained from one of their sources who reports that Israeli commandos, in cooperation with Kurdish fighters, have destroyed Iranian nuclear installations.

WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, will hold a press conference today in London where he plans to reveal new details from the Stratfor emails, including details on the company's dealings with the American government and major corporations, and its network of paid sources.

In a WikiLeaks press release last night, the group said that it had obtained over five million emails generated by the Stratfor headquarters in Texas, from 2004 until the end of 2011. Though the organization does not specify the source of the emails, it has already been published that Stratfor was a target of the Anonymous hackers.

According to the emails, among Stratfor's clients are American government agencies including the Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Marine Corps, the Dow Chemical company, for whom Stratfor is alleged to have kept tabs on activists fighting the company for compensation over the Indian Bhopal chemical plant disaster in 1984, and defense giants Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon.

In addition, the WikiLeaks staetment said Stratfor also "monitored" activists supporting the blight of the 1984 Bhopal chemical disaster on behalf of the US chemical giant Dow Chemical.

In one of the emails from November 2011, Startfor officials discuss the explosion at an Iranian missile base near Tehran and quote a source who "was asked what he thought of reports that the Israelis were preparing a military offensive against Iran. Response: I think this is a diversion. The Israelis already destroyed all the Iranian nuclear infrastructure on the ground weeks ago."

One company analyst responded dismissively to the possibility of an Israeli attack having already taken place, asking: "How and when did the Israelis destroy the infra on the ground?"

"Would anyone actually accept that this could let the Europeans forget about the Euro crisis, something they have been experiencing every day for over a year?!" the analyst added, asking: "Do we attribute any credibility to this item at all? I don't even see what possible disinfo purposes this could serve."

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Some of the Stratfor analysts expressed the opinion that Israel had sent commandos into Iran, perhaps with the assistance of Kurdish fighters or Iranian Jews who had immigrated to Israel, to carry out these operations.

The emails also mention a plan to coerce an Israeli source into updating the firm on the medical condition of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

"[Y]ou have to take control of him. Control means financial, sexual or psychological control... This is intended to start our conversation on your next phase," Stratfor CEO George Friedman is quoted of instructing one of the firm's analysts.

According to the emails, many Stratfor operatives are former employees of the U.S. government and they routinely pay sources for information in cash.

The WikiLeaks press statement also mentions "private intelligence staff who align themselves closely with U.S. government policies and channel tips to the Mossad – including through an information mule in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Yossi Melman, who conspired with Guardian journalist David Leigh to secretly, and in violation of WikiLeaks' contract with the Guardian, move WikiLeaks U.S. diplomatic cables to Israel."

Mr Melman who until recently covered intelligence affairs for Haaretz said in response that at the time "I worked for Haaretz and with the approval of my editors I obtained the WikiLeaks documents."

"Harretz published some of them. I am proud of my journalistic achievements which was praised by my editors and the readers. Julian Assang of Wikileaks tried to prevent the publication arguing that the documents belonged to him," he added, saying, "I and my editors rejected his claim and went head with the publication."

"Now [Assange] tries to take revenge on me by hinting that I was a channel to the Israeli intelligence community. This is a complete lie. He also by way of innuendo tries to create the impression that I was a source for Stratfor. This is another lie. I do not have any control whatsoever about what Stratfor personnel wrote about me in their private in house correspondence," Melman added.

In Novmber 2010, WikiLeaks published, along with a number of major media organizations, including the Guardian, Der Spiegel and the New York Times, a cache of U.S. State Department diplomatic cables. American intelligence analyst, Bradley Manning, is being court-martialed for allegedly leaking the cables to WikiLeaks.

Read this article in Hebrew

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#678 ·
Hello Gunnysmith,
Who ??? Our good "allies" Pakistan supplied them with the nuclear technology.

It is my belief that Iran has had a nuclear capability for quite some time from blackmarket warheads and arty shells from the collapse of the USSR and a European power. What the Iranians lacked was the PAL code to unlock the detonators on those nukes. I have always suspected that the Iranian effort was to develope new triggers for those old nukes. We'll see in the months ahead what is and isn't, likely just before the US national elections.

VD
 
#679 ·
I would have to say you're wrong, can you spell "Blowback"

Iran's leaders have worked to pursue nuclear energy technology since the 1950s, spurred by the launch of U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower's Atoms for Peace program. It made steady progress, with Western help, through the early 1970s. But concern over Iranian intentions followed by the upheaval of the Islamic Revolution in 1979 effectively ended outside assistance.
 
#680 ·
IRAN knows that the coming attack will place it into ruin. Therefore, they have NOTHING to loose. I am quite sure they are arranging payback upon the USA for not stopping ISRAEL. Even though limited, some attack effort will be imparted upon the US remote areas. And, there will most likely be some level of strike back in the US mainland.

U.S. Sees Iran Attacks as Likely if Israel Strikes
 
#682 ·
IRAN knows that the coming attack will place it into ruin. Therefore, they have NOTHING to loose. I am quite sure they are arranging payback upon the USA for not stopping ISRAEL. Even though limited, some attack effort will be imparted upon the US remote areas. And, there will most likely be some level of strike back in the US mainland.

U.S. Sees Iran Attacks as Likely if Israel Strikes
There are a few of us who realize the muzzie threat in the US. They are using the lib press and regular ole lib assholes to put forth their takeover of our country! There WILL come a day when we have at it in our own country!
 
#681 ·
WHO PAYS FOR ALL OF THOSE ROCKETS!?!?

After firing 50, 9mm rounds through something gets me a tad bit tired. But, launching over fifty rockets into ISRAEL is one HELL of a dedicated effort. Then, GAZA condems retaliation for this?

Need to buy stock in TOYOTA? Don't need to worry about warranty issues. Blow up a TOYOTA in GAZA today!

:redgrin:

Israel airstrikes target Gaza, killing at least 15 - CNN.com
 
#683 ·
After firing 50, 9mm rounds through something gets me a tad bit tired. But, launching over fifty rockets into ISRAEL is one HELL of a dedicated effort. Then, GAZA condems retaliation for this?

Need to buy stock in TOYOTA? Don't need to worry about warranty issues. Blow up a TOYOTA in GAZA today!

:redgrin:

Israel airstrikes target Gaza, killing at least 15 - CNN.com
I saw on the news -they were unloading rockets to fire into Israel when they got smoked!! HA HA . Israel needs to say... for every one of ours that dies-we will kill 1,000 Pals-men women and children. See how long that lasts. NONE OF THEM are innocent.
 
#684 ·
#685 ·
Musibike I went trough this whole thread that you started back in 2008 and I havent seen a single oposing view. Is this america or some communist regime?
Now lets hear some truth.

Hamas was democraticly elected in Gaza strip. Hamas was started in 1970s by izraeli mossad to create a division in radical palestinian movements, this way they can be defeted with easy when they are fighting each other. Hamas kicked the Fatah out of Gaza strip and took total control.
Then Izrael decided to block the strip from any international trade.
As of today people in Gaza have to dig tunnels to Egypt to get basic nesesities. Izrael made the strip a 'warshaw ghetto" what an irony. Because of this blockade Hamas militants are firing home made rockets into so called "israel" to force zionists to allow Gaza to have free access to mediterranean sea and egypt.


I don't see the point of your fanatical obession with israel at all. Israel has nothing to offer USA at all, nothing, nothing that would help americans, other then their blood diamond dealers in NY. Iran has a lot to offer, we could buy all Iranian produced crude oil for cheap and we would have cheaper gas prices in USA. But because your war hawks in Israel we are paying $4 a gallon today.
 
#689 ·
Musibike I went trough this whole thread that you started back in 2008 and I havent seen a single oposing view. Is this america or some communist regime?
Now lets hear some truth.

Hamas was democraticly elected in Gaza strip. Hamas was started in 1970s by izraeli mossad to create a division in radical palestinian movements, this way they can be defeted with easy when they are fighting each other. Hamas kicked the Fatah out of Gaza strip and took total control.
Then Izrael decided to block the strip from any international trade.
As of today people in Gaza have to dig tunnels to Egypt to get basic nesesities. Izrael made the strip a 'warshaw ghetto" what an irony. Because of this blockade Hamas militants are firing home made rockets into so called "israel" to force zionists to allow Gaza to have free access to mediterranean sea and egypt.


I don't see the point of your fanatical obession with israel at all. Israel has nothing to offer USA at all, nothing, nothing that would help americans, other then their blood diamond dealers in NY. Iran has a lot to offer, we could buy all Iranian produced crude oil for cheap and we would have cheaper gas prices in USA. But because your war hawks in Israel we are paying $4 a gallon today.
They must of gotten lost underground when they tunneled into Israel and commandos attacked huh? How about when the Jews let ships with food come into port and...surprise!!! Weapons hidden in the food!! And what the FUCK can Iran give us besides oil??? More radical scumbag Mullas?? They fund terrorism all over the world and you want them as a friend? We already have our troubles with them here we sure as hell don't need more. They all want a world wide Caliph and it ain't gonnna start here!!
 
#686 ·
I havent seen a single oposing view. Is this america or some communist regime?
Now lets hear some truth.

Reading is fundamental:
Post 677
Could anyone here tell me who gave Iran neuclear technology?
Post 679
I would have to say you're wrong, can you spell "Blowback"

Iran's leaders have worked to pursue nuclear energy technology since the 1950s, spurred by the launch of U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower's Atoms for Peace program. It made steady progress, with Western help, through the early 1970s. But concern over Iranian intentions followed by the upheaval of the Islamic Revolution in 1979 effectively ended outside assistan
 
#688 ·
gunnysmith I see that you are Ron Paul supporter, no wonder why you are not brainwashed yet by CNN and Fox news.

Out lovely president Barak Hussein took an oath to uphold the US consitution!!! Thats it! He did not take an oath to help Israel bomb iran. I aplaud obama for not running to kiss the anus of benjamin netenyahu, that kind of rejection takes some bravery and pride ... to say wait a minute AIPAC, I want your money but I just can't kiss jew anus yet, give me some time, let those sanctions work.
 
#691 ·
There are almost 700 posts in this thread.
Most of them link to information
A 2 year history of articles in 1 place.
Musibikes thread.
69 pages without a whole bunch of shitstorms.
Alot of info here. Whether true or false, is left to the reader.
None of the people involved in this mess can be trusted, and many would read the words of Jesus Christ himself, and wonder how the Christians can possibly come to the conclusion that the Israel of today is somehow Gods chosen people.

I've posted articles (with no opinion) for the sake of the info and because it's Musibike's thread.

Please don't create a shitstorm in this thread.
It is history in the making.
 
#692 ·
#693 ·
Celebrate like your kind did after MURDERING all of those innocent people in the twin towers!?!?!

After ISRAEL stamps you terrorist flat, enjoy HELL which is where your souls will wind up after murdering your own and others all of this world!

IRAN is fixing to be a GLASS highway like Syria and the rest of your HELL HOLE countries. It is just a matter of a bit more time!!! Because we all know, you can't just live and let live in PEACE.[/quote]

GunterPrien just got :eek:wned:
 
#697 ·
Celebrate like your kind did after MURDERING all of those innocent people in the twin towers!?!?!

After ISRAEL stamps you terrorist flat, enjoy HELL which is where your souls will wind up after murdering your own and others all of this world!

IRAN is fixing to be a GLASS highway like Syria and the rest of your HELL HOLE countries. It is just a matter of a bit more time!!! Because we all know, you can't just live and let live in PEACE.
GunterPrien just got :eek:wned:[/QUOTE]

GunterPrien just got owned
Not quite:
The US gives Israel 3 billion monoply dollars a year, they can only be use for arms purchased in the US.
The US gives 90 billion to those enemies of Israel, who surround it.
Seems odd doesn't it.
 
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