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    THE 9mm ADDICT MUSIBIKE's Avatar
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    Some of you guys better think about close combat. 100 meters and less. What do most infantry operations use? M1 carbine, AK47, UZI, STEN, MP5, MP40, PPSH41, AUG, SOUMI, CETME, .........

    NOT SNIPER WEAPONS!

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    i found this site a while back and thought it had some good information(if not a little paranoid)
    http://shtfblog.com/
    gun control means hitting your target

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    If SHTF your problem is where do you live, or plan on living? If in a urban setting a few 22 rifles (Take Downs) might be appropriate, stashed at more than one location. In the suburbs a good 40 cal. hand gun & 30-30 might do. On the road an AK or shotgun for close encounters, and 308 for distance. If in tinbuck too a 50 might be the ticket. Its your circumstances what will dictate what you need.
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    I'll reiterate the .308. It's a great 'sniper' round, but also good for closer quarters. It's readily available, and a NATO standard round. If you have fantasies about clearing buildings with your FA 9mm, I'm here to tell you a .308 would be a better choice (I'm discounting overpenetration here, since we're talking about SHTF scenarios.) In a close combat situation your best advantage is numbers, not pistol caliber smgs. If I could only have one rifle, it would be a .308 bolt gun. If I could have multiple I'd add some others, but pistol caliber carbines would be some of the last. I don't think anyone has the definitive truth, as circumstances vary, but I am a combat vet and my choices reflect my observations.

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    22lr
    30/30
    30-06
    12ga

    it is impossible to pick "one" gun. too many factors. what is good for me is not good for you.

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    Darnit, I can't figure out the 'Obama' thing in yoru sig, can you resize?

    No caliber is perfect for ever situation, but we're talking about the best compromise if you can only have one (unless i misunderstand the conversation). Ideally you'd have 5-6 or more firearms, one suited for every situation, but picking one involves making compromises...

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    DSA FN-FAL in .308, with a folding stock for transport, riding shotgun in car/trucks etc..., Every round will have to count!, Robust design, almost as reliable as the AK. Parts are in good supply. They were important to many African Nations that have had many SHTF conditions, that have lasted from days to years, if you see film clips from these nations, the FN-FAL and the AK remain!!!

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    This topic is the same as the chicken and the egg...

    Are you going to be in survival mode? if so, 22lr or 22mag is great..

    Are you in defensive/offensive mode? then you need more firepower.

    ever kill a squirrel with a 30-06??

    most people own a 12g, a 30-30, a 30-06 and a 22lr....

    are we talking survival or "resistance"...

    people laugh at a 22lr, but it sure would hurt to get shot with one...in the face...
    the bullet will penetrate a skull, then it bounces around inside...

    There is no do-it-all rifle...

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    This may sound funny, but I have a friend who kills squirrels with his .308 - and eats them! He handloads with a O Buck pellet over a few grains of (I think) Red Dot. It is accurate at 50 ft and makes about the same noise as a .22. Guess what I'm saying is people can get pretty creative when the chips are down. I guess if I had to go out the back door, I would probably have the M16 shorty with the .22 conversion unit and the Serbu Super Shorty in a holster. On the other hand, I may just take a .22 target pistol. Lots of people poach deer with .22's. Hopefully we never have to make that decision!

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