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    Default VZ-58 re-weld question

    I'm playing musical parts kit build this month

    I wish to confirm the legal requirements to reweld a receiver. Just want to touch base here... the thing that I'm understanding to be "the" magic requirement is to weld a block into place to prevent installation of the full-auto sear. Correct?

    Is there anything else that is required? It would seem illogical to cut the sear notch out of the bolt carrier, but that's a quick dremel job if so. Would destroying the FA parts be a requirement too?

    My goal in doing this is that I'm planning to tack-weld this sucker together so I can get measurements from the real deal. Side-side measurements are not a problem with the receiver chunks, but the front-back measurements are the bugger. Then I post everything in a Visio doc and those of us with mill that are intact can start the u-build-'em process

    But I want to keep it legal, first and foremost. I want to keep my size 7 poop-chute intact.
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    if you don't want to reweld the whole thing, just tack the parts to a steel bar.

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    Jerry -- somewhere I saw the bolts for these at $12.

    If you tacked one in place, the receiver couldn't be used. And it might help with alignment.
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    hrm that brings up an interesting point - do the receiver chunks fall into that "scrap metal" category, or that "once a machine gun..." category? Now that I think about it, seems that I could reweld this if the receiver is blocked. I'm thinking about Uzi rewelds with those "repair channel" parts. It wouldn't be a MG and would in fact be a semi-auto sporter clone.

    That part of the bolt that I call the "sear notch" may not matter, because if I block the receiver correctly a FA sear couldn't be used anyway.

    Now I'm starting to think about other things like parts count in these... thinking a few parts would be easy, others would be a PITA. Let's see, it would be a milled receiver w/ muzzle brake, so it would need 5 parts, unless the striker somehow counts as another part?
    - receiver
    - semi-only sear that clears receiver block
    - muzzle extension/brake (duh)
    - piston
    - floorplate

    That would work...

    See I knew this would happen. I get into my MG-42 reweld then start looking at the other receiver chunks and presto I just made another project.
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    someone makes a fake VZ-58 receiver, if you had one (or knew someone who does)you could use it to get some measurements.
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    Default What we need to know...

    What we need to know is what modifications were made to the
    original receiver in order to make a CZ858, which is the semi version
    of the VZ58 that is marketed and sold up in Canada.

    Here is a link:

    http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/cz858.htm

    I'd love to get someone up there who owns one to let a
    professional machinist blueprint the receiver and internal parts....

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    I am in contact with John at Wolverine. As soon as he sends me some pics of the internals where I can see them up close, I am going to contact BATFETB to see about importing them. IF and only if it is a virgin reciever, it should classify as a sporting firearm as the 858 was never made for the military market
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