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    Thanks alot viper dude, colis, and moleman. I'm just going to wait to get somthing bigger. I'm going to see if I can rent a lift when I move it.

    You guys know anything about lagun mills?

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    Your welcome

    You guys know anything about lagun mills?
    I did a quick search and all the ones I saw were floor models, some of the older ones were copies of Bridgeport machines.
    Did you come across one? What model?
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    Hello Dark Knight,
    Lagun mills have a good reputation and hold resale value. I believe that they are made in Spain. They are full-sized machines like a Bridgeport mill.

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    Yeah I saw Lagun on ebay for a good price but it's 7 hours away a weighs like 2,000 pounds.

    What I can't figure out is this. If I get a bench top with a 2 hp power motor like 17 inches from chuck to table. I think that should be plenty. What is the advantage of a floor model? other than a more stablity and being able to mill a bigger item. From the specs they can drill up to the same size whole, endmill is the same. I'm thinking for most gun parts i could just use a big bench top. Also I was thinking a bench top would be better for semi auto parts.

    I'm not sure if this assumption is correct is that what you guys think?

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    No matter how big you buy a piece of machinery, eventually you will need to machine something that is too big to fit. Floor model = heavier and more solid. In addition to the extra capacity you get the large mass absorbs vibrations better and is more stable.

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    Floor model = heavier and more solid. In addition to the extra capacity you get the large mass absorbs vibrations better and is more stable.
    Exactly, also most of the floor model machines have a lot more adjustments to trim plains into parellel or needed angles.

    If you do decide to get a bench model get one of the heavier ones, like 600 lbs or so, the heavier the better. And yes they do work for most gun projects, just check out some of the sub gun builds, most of these were done using a bench mill.
    But if you have the room and your budget allows it, get a floor model.
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    Hello Dark Knight,
    Unlike the old Beach Boys song... vibrations in machining are never good !!
    IF... You would like to do machining one day on car, motorcycle, airplane, or other machinery parts then the larger mill becomes most useful. IF... you may one day like to make some money doing work for paying friends (called customers) the larger machine can make real bux and do so faster than the small size. HP is only a part of the usefulness. Work volume is another parameter.

    A crucial difference between a "floor type" mill and a beefy bench type is usually the table size and the ability to lower/raise that table. A large table by the way can mount two vises or accessories to handle more work.

    Keep in mind that a powerful bench mill will require a sturdy base to support it. That combo can eat up shop space. Bench in this case is a misnomer.

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    Default index mill

    thanks for all the replys.

    I found this one for $1200 I can't find out the model number though. It has x power feed, quill power feed and a 9 x 42 table. Seems like an ok deal. I'd like to get a model number. I did some research on Index people seem to like you guys now much about them?
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    Hello Dark Knight,
    Check the spindle taper to see if it is a common one. I like the R-8 types as used on most Bridgeport mills and many current imports. A Standard #30 taper is neet too !! The Morse Tapers are a bit of a hassel to remove because they stick big time as do the #9 B & S (Brown & Sharpe) tapers.

    Other things being equal the Index mill is a good machine. With a serial number and a couple pics the fellows at Practical Machinist - Largest Manufacturing Technology Forum on the Web can help identify your Index. There may even be an Index mill group on yahoo !!!

    It seems that the price of machine tools is escallating lately. Maybe it is our crummy currency going south.

    If you get this mill try to get all related tooling ie vise, collets, tool holders, tie downs, manuals, literature, etc. If the mill uses 3-phase electricity perhaps the seller has a coverter available for it (or for cheap).

    Happy Shopping !!!!

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    Last edited by Viper Dude; 03-27-2010 at 05:42 AM. Reason: caca spelling

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    I purchased this Bridgeport for $1500.00 several years ago. It is tight and in great shape. Looked much better after a good cleaning. Even came with a Bridgeport 8" mill vise. It uses the R8 collets. I have since added DRO's, moterized the X axis and added a power chuck/collet release to speed tool changes. It cuts smoothe as glass. I have used it to flycut several, flathead, 4-cyl, Jeep heads..PERFECT.

    I used an imported benchtop mill-drill for some years...they are good drills and OK for VERY LIGHT/ SMALL, milling work. Way to much chatter for any serious millwork and the screws and nuts wear out too quickly. Too hard to find parts for. Buy American. A "Mill" without a "knee," is a waste of money. Let the chinks keep their junk machine tools.

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