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    Ok first your steppers, go with resolution or ministeps of 10. After set up ill walk you through using a dial indicator and the quick and dirty way to use machIII To verify.

    On the z, 12.5 rev per inch, 1:1 200 steps resolution 10 means your z value will be 12.5*200*10=25000
    I dont think you will be happy with the factory screw.and its backlash, but well work on that too.

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    WOW I didn't think you'd be on that early (or late) or I would have watched for your reply.

    OK I'll try 10
    I know I'm repeating myself, but where do you find the resolution? I don't see it with the motor info, I even looked on Gecko's site thinking it might have something to do with the controller and didn't notice it there either.
    It's just one of those things I feel I should know in case I change something later


    Yeah I know the mill's Z fine feed isn't the best way to go, but I'm hoping it will be accurate enough until I can get it switched over to a ball screw, If I have to I'll just set it manually and just do 2D type cutting at first.

    There's some heavy storms coming in so I'm shutting down the pc until it passes
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    I dont remember where the resolution was listed but it was in my literature for the steppers. Ill be online from 6p to 6a tonight.

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    Well got the motors mounted, hooked up to the controller & PC too, spun the motors a few times in each directions and everything moves. Took a couple pics and will post them later.

    The only issue I can see right now is the Z is going backward, it goes down pushing the page up key & vise-versa, so I got to see if there's a way to switch this in Mach or I'll have to switch wires around.
    I'll mess with it more on Sunday, it's been a long week
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    That is no biggie, you either switch motor ports or something else. Ignore that for now. Monday or tuesday illook for the way to switch it.

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    Yeah I know it's not an issue, I figured one of those pin ports in the program can be switched or I'll just move the motor to the other side of the mount, but I like where it's at because it's out of the way. Going to go search for info on this

    Here's some pics of the temporary mounts, first the Z
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    And the Y & X
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    You definitely went a new way on the mounts. I will need to look at them on something bigger than a droid tomorrow.
    If that z axis works I have 2 suggestions.
    1 mount a 6" cheapo harbor freight digital to it to get actual direct z axis measurement.

    2 If you were to get a cam operated idler wheel on the drive belt you could disengage the stepper and have a drill press option. I have wished for this many tikes as i cant manually drill anymore. Sure I have a drill press but i have to break set up.(****edit wait, can you do it by just tightening or losening the knob on the press handle? I cant remember how that set uolp worked***)


    Oh and 3, if I were you I would start planning for flood coolant. Once you get going you will realize you can drastically ramp up speeds, tool life and quality with it.

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    Well I got the Z motor turning the proper way, don't ask me to explain it , I was in the one config screen with all the checks & X's and the one middle column X I changed to a check mark.


    With the mounts I kept looking it over and thinking about them, the Z was the easiest with about 3 ways to try, the others two were more of a pain, I bet I thought up at least a dozen different ways before I thought of those.


    1- So even though there's a DRO in Mach, you think I should still add one to the machine itself? I was going to do that with all three axis with those cheap ones before I decided to go the CNC route

    2- Yeah the way the setup is now I could unlock the fine feed and still use it like a drill press, but then I'd need to buy a good chuck instead of an out of round Chinese crap one

    3- I don't know if I'd want to go with a flood system on this setup with the round column, I'd want to close it into a cabinet so it won't splash everywhere and make a mess, I think it would be hard to change the height of the head.
    Now if I want to make an all out CNC setup I would get a square column and do it on that.
    I was going to put in an air setup with an adjustable mist set on a very fine flow of coolant, this way there will be a constant air stream to blow the chips away and the air alone will still provide some cooling, but the fine mist will also add some lube at the same time. I know this isn't the best way but it will be better then nothing.


    OK off to check out some more of the Mach setup videos on boobtube
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    I would just add a cheap scale to the z axis. This is the weak link in the system made even weaker.bu your choice to reuse the fine lead.

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