I saw online that their 12 ton press was on sale for $109.99. I called yesterday and they were out After deciding that a big hammer just is not the way to go with my new bending jig I started a new online search. HF was just a little too far and getting help on the phone with them did not seem like a good idea. Turns out Northern Tool carries 2 different brands of 12 ton presses and they both are on sale. I called this morning and they did the other one. I get there and all tools are an extra 10% off today only. Out the door for $107.16 They have anothe 5 or six in stock if anyone is interested Item #14590