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    Default So I need some advice from the masters on an idea I have

    I bought a mesa tactical low tube adapter for my winchester and quickly took it off after shooting it for the first time. Now a great idea in a t-shirt. Now that I have this leftover part I thought Id do some experimentation with turning it into a buffered stock assembly like the knoxx stocks. What I would do is use a Vltor shotgun adapter tube (has an open ended buffer) and buffer springs to allow the stock to move along the tube. To do this I would mill out the position holes to create a track for the stock to ride on and use 2 options to cover the spring so it applies force to the stock after the recoil impulse. I could either adapt a plunger mounted on a buttplate to compress the spring or mill the stock to accept a tube that would wrap around the buffer tube (closed on one end to compress the spring) and mill a space for the position track to pass through. Im wondering if anybody has any knowledge of how much spring tention (length and pre-load etc) to take a shotgun recoil. While I know this isea sounds crazy, i figured it was a little project to play with. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    http://www.vltor.com/images/ssttube1-600.jpg

    http://www.mesatactical.com/index.php?id=55
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    I took mine off too. A little rough to shoot in a t-shirt. Some one else around here can clarify the model, but years ago I had a recoil operated shotgun. The barrel was on a big spring. Either Browning A-5 or Remmington 11 or 48. Can't remember. This may be a starting point for you.

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    Maybe this will help, http://www.centerfirecentral.com/articles/recoil.htm

    http://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp

    I'll look around some more.

    What kind of loads do you shoot regularly.

    If you can find an average ft. lbs. of the load+the weight of the gun then you can go from there for spring lbs.

    Try doing a search on "felt shotgun recoil in ft. lbs." or the like.

    There is alot on this subject

    assuming you want as little travel as possible, you need to see how much usable space you have in the buttstock tube minus the space the spring will take up.
    http://www.centuryspring.com/home.ht...OVMTC=standard
    a compression spring or better yet a die spring is what you would be after I think.
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    Probably standard 2 3/4 loads in buck or slug. With the amount of travel used for the knoxx stock and the amount of travel you can get outa a carbine stock tube milled for this purpose its possible to spread the impulse out even more, though I doubt this is neccessary. As far as the plunger system I thought about getting a custom spring and use the AR buffer as a plunger that sits against a steel buttplate screwed into the buttstock. Since I have almost no knowledge of reloading or muzzle energy I cant really do the calculations myself.
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    I'll look in my shotgun reloading book for ya, maybe that could be a starting point.
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    I appreciate it.
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