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Thread: What Value for Fulton Armory Polytech M14s?

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    steve i i told you on co-ar15 let me know what you're looking to get and maybe we could work out a deal

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    I heard the US machine story but also have never seen a real source - just quotes of this real source but never the actual source. What I went on was that Walt Kuleck and Clint McKee made the claims of the proper forging of the Polytech receivers. There were also people doing well at matches with them.

    There are gunners and people who like guns. Unfortunately, I'm in the second group. I brought this rifle to the first of two CMP matches and mostly hit the paper but badly. The local gunnie there, an ex-marine sniper tried it and thought it was great. He found my match ammo poor and tried some of his and proceeded to do a bunch of 'X's at 200 yards.

    I know the Chinese were (and are) big in the fake market. I have some of their M1 carbine ammo that has the headstamps looking exactly like Lake City. The story I heard was that it is corrosive and was going to be packed like CMP LC but they got caught and it was imported in Chinese boxes. Another story with no real source.

    Steve

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    i have a friend up in ft collins that has his own machine shop, also he know's m14's very very well in fact even qualified expert on the m14 back when he was in the army (early 60's) anyway he has a chinese m14 with all gi parts like you but he won't change the receiver because it shoots so darn well lol also he told me that his receiver is all in usgi spec as far as tollerances AND the hardness. from what he understood it as there were some rifles that actually did have soft receivers but it was probably a small amount that gave all the chinese m14's a bad name.

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    jreifsch80, I've pm'd you on co-ar15. I'm on too many boards and hadn't looked at that thread. I'm willing to deal, especially with all the help you've given me.

    Steve

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    ok i'll have to check it out. after talking alot with my machinist friend i think i'd rather have a chinese receiver m14 than a newer cast one (though a friend of mine and i do have a hand full of cast 80% m14 receivers lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreifsch80 View Post
    ok i'll have to check it out. after talking alot with my machinist friend i think i'd rather have a chinese receiver m14 than a newer cast one (though a friend of mine and i do have a hand full of cast 80% m14 receivers lol)
    I also hang out in the cannon world and know well the problems of casting. Even with hardening it is virtually impossible to guarantee that it is solid. That's why the patron Saint of cannoneers is St. Barbara - for people afraid of sudden flaming death.

    The Garrand and M14 receivers are cool but almost nostalgic. There is so damned much work in them to make them function. When they are right they are marvelous but so easy to mess up. Over the years a lot of people have tried, and often failed, to reproduce these commercially. Compare them to an AK receiver where you bend a sheet of steel and harden a few pieces.

    Steve

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    i hear ya steve i gave a couple of the 80% to my machinist buddy since he knows what he's doing, he's going to finish one or two for himself.

    i've always wanted to build an 8x57 m1 garand

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