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Depends on if you are one who feels safe with the .308 vs. .311 bullet issue.aloharover said:Even better news.
I see a couple of 24" long heavy 308 barrels. Could you cut the barrel just ahead of the chamber and then rechamber the barrel in 7.62x39 and turn down the external dimensions to match a stock barrel?
Seems like a nice inexpensive way to come up with extra ak barrels if the ban holds.
Let's not forget also that Meeper made his conversions using stock parts too...SangRun Hunter said:Sarcasim? The M76 M77 used a NATO load. That is the whole basis of this project. They used the same bolt head as the Yugo AK's.
hcpookie said:Let's not forget also that Meeper made his conversions using stock parts too...
1biggun said:good info. what is the mag? I got my 308 remington 700 barrel yesterday from ebay it is mint satin finish very close to a Rommy. I notice in the pics that there is a fair amount of ramping on the barrel face probably do to the longer shell length. I had planed to move the mag back from the barrel. but I see in the pic;s that the trunion is opened up to allow for the longer shell. Are these pics of a modifed yugo or a saiga? I wish I had a saiga to look at. none of the shops I have been to have any in 308. I like the idea of welding the rear sight block to the trunion that will save a lot of work plus I plan to mill off all provisons for a rear sight as well plan on a scoped only. will possably mount the scope rail to were the old sight was. My barrel is about .680 at the aprox location of were the gas block will be also looks like the Remington arms Ilion NY USA logo can stay intact if I choose and be visable. I am sure this will baffel most law inforcemet and Game Warden types. A Remington 308 AK what the !@#$%^ . Next step is to find a Yugo kit with a bad barrel cheap. Thought about seeing what CFS was doing with some of there bad returned kits.
Wow, thank you for that link.hcpookie said:Depends on if you are one who feels safe with the .308 vs. .311 bullet issue.
http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11543
1biggun said:Is it possable to convert to to a 308? I have done several builds now and have a pretty complete machine shop. My main question is can a standard ak trunion /bolt assembly hold up to 308 pressures and will a barrel turned down to fit a standard trunion be safe. I can handel all the mag fitting and bolt face work. looking to use a Romy kit for this with a modified mauser barrel. I am aware of the saiga rifles do the differ in the trunion and bolt?
You guys do good work. Please continue.SangRun Hunter said:Sarcasim? The M76 M77 used a NATO load. That is the whole basis of this project. They used the same bolt head as the Yugo AK's.
OrdnanceGuy said:Sarcasm? Hell, no. I was thinking of the original question by 1biggun which was asking about a standard AK trunnion and bolt. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
You guys do good work. Please continue.
BattleRifleG3 said:BIG ISSUE HERE - You guys are talking about certain guns being up to handling 7.62 NATO and 308 as the same thing. It's my understanding that 7.62 NATO uses 50ksi-ish chamber pressures and that 308 Winchester uses 62ksi-ish ones.
I would be very concerned about making a gun designed for 7.62 NATO only to take US commercial 308 Winchester ammo.
Am I wrong about this, and are the Galils and Yugos designed to take US commercial ammo and not just 7.62 NATO? For the Saiga-308 to be marketed as a sporting gun in the US I'm pretty sure it would be up to the task, hence the third bolt lug at the expense of making a new and very different kind of magazine. But are the Galils and Yugos the same way?
Folks who talk of thousand round torture tests probably aren't using thousands of rounds of commercial 308.
So is there something I'm missing here? If Yugo AKs are in fact up to 308 Winchester, then you bet I'll be doing a build!
1biggun said:I just looked at site that showed the Hesse model 47 in 308. it states that they use a RPK bolt and trunion. Is there a differance in a rpk trunion and a Yugo M70? If they are different how.
Some people use the most loosely correct statements to sell their products. I bet they're talking about a Saiga 308 that just happens to have one trunion bulge. I highly doubt it's an RPK bolt. But I'll go there to check.1biggun said:I just looked at site that showed the Hesse model 47 in 308. it states that they use a RPK bolt and trunion. Is there a differance in a rpk trunion and a Yugo M70? If they are different how.
1biggun said:http://www.ak-47.net/ak47/hessem308.html is were I saw the hesse 308 info