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    Default 9x39 reamer - on order! :)

    Clymer was very helpful today. Part of my tax return went toward the investment of a .350x39 chamber reamer. Now to find the fastest-twist barrel I can find, along with some 7.62x39 brass that I'll be resizing to a .35 caliber neck.

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    what the hell are you building?
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    Whats the twist on a suomi barrel?
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    what do you do for dies?. I suspect you want the fast twist to stabalize a very heavy bullet. posssably subsonic?? cant wait to hear the out come. would be Ideal for a hunting pistol. there has been some brass on ebay I have seen new winchester from time to time. Clymer gave me some good feed back on the 458 socom as well. I would be very interested in having a barrel reamed in 9x39 if you get it to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelcore1964
    what the hell are you building?
    um...

    To start, one of these:
    http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as09-e.htm

    ... and one of these:
    http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as65-e.htm



    I won't bore you by repeating the details, but suffice to say that I've been working toward this for some time, this is just the next step in a long chain that started some time ago. And yes, if this works, I plan on making more than one.

    Quote Originally Posted by robpiat
    Whats the twist on a suomi barrel?
    Good question - 9mm is 9mm, so the twist rate on 9mm should be the same irregardless of who made it. I can't believe the Finns (?) would have built the Suomi barrels with a non-standard twist rate. I'll have to look that one up...

    Quote Originally Posted by 1biggun
    what do you do for dies?. I suspect you want the fast twist to stabalize a very heavy bullet. posssably subsonic?? cant wait to hear the out come. would be Ideal for a hunting pistol. there has been some brass on ebay I have seen new winchester from time to time. Clymer gave me some good feed back on the 458 socom as well. I would be very interested in having a barrel reamed in 9x39 if you get it to work.
    The folks at Clymer said to contact the die makers (reloading company) after I get the reamer in-hand. They are providing the technical info that I will forward to the reloading company. So far, Hornady has been the nicest people I've dealt with, and RCBS has been the worst. In fact RCBS simply said they can't help me. I'm going to press RCBS further and drop the names of the Clymer folks to see if I can get further with them, since supposedly they are cheaper than most. I'm going to shop with some smaller places too. In fact, if you know of any companys that are "wildcat friendly", let me know!

    You pretty much nailed the rest. I'll be sharing my progress on this one no matter the results. So if it sucks and I blow a ton of money, at least we'll know about it! Remind me again about the barrel after I get some more progress made. I'm trying to talk my dad, the reloading king, into doing some resizing & reloading work for me once the dies are built. This isn't "new" and had been done before (Clymer already had it in their listing) so hopefully I can find some reloading die data elsewhere.
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    you've got me on that one - I'm really not a reloader so I'm not really sure what you mean. (yeah, yeah, I know)

    Do you mean to say that he made a die he could use in a reloading press thingy? That sounds very interesting to me because to be honest the dies are going to cost around $500 I think. The reamer is over $200 so if I could save some cash I'll do it... Is it as simple as using the reamer to ream the inside of a 7.62x39 die set to fit? Or am I making it too simple?
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    Hc I may be wrong but dont the die makers use the roughing reamr (if you have one) to make the die. My understanding is that the roughing die is slightly smaller than the chamber and is the same as the shell casing. $500 for dies sounds way high. the 458 socom dies I looked at were only $50. of course they are a established calibur. if the rest of the case is the same and only the neck is opened up why cant a standard 7.62x39 resizing die be modifed in the neck area? I dont know how the brass is enlarged to start with but once it is dont you just resize it and press/crimp the bullet? I will try to find the info I saw on die making.

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    You might try these guys http://www.z-hat.com/Reloading%20Dies.htm they do a lot of special stuff.

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    $500 is an estimate. I honestly don't know how much but I'm expecting $500 "just in case"

    See I'm not sure about the reloading dies - it makes sense that they would simply use the reamer to undercut a "blank" die in basically the same way as a chamber would be reamed. That said, I don't know if the normal 7.62 would work, because the hole would need to be bigger. They actually talked me out of a roughing reamer because in their opinion, the finishing reamer should cut around 25 or so barrels before it starts to dull. I ordered the "coating" that makes it last 3x longer (TiN I think) so in theory I could even squeeze out 50 barrels.

    My understanding is that the reloading die company takes the reamer and either cuts the reloading dies from it, or uses it to measure a special reamer (a roughing reamer perhaps?) and adds that to your final bill. Now I'm wondering if "blank" reloading dies can be bought. Heck, now that I think this through, why couldn't I simply re-cut a 7.62x39 die set? HRM... That Z-hat place sells blanks for $40. Maybe a roughing reamer would be worth it, since that would probably be the best way to cut the dies... have to shop around now.

    Its due in around the end of April so I've got some time to shop around. It would be cool if I could cut the reloading stuff myself to same some cash.

    Another good thing, Clymer thinks that a normal 7.62x39 headspace gauge will work due to the shoulder - they are checking to be sure. That will save some more cash right there!
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    here are several others http://www.ch4d.com/
    http://www.neiljones.com/
    the CH4D dies seem to be used by a lot of people for wild cats

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