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    HMMMM thanks for the drill gun barrel idea. are there any sources out there for these?? I might be able to do some if there is enough interest and money in it to make it worth while. I dont have a reamer but that can be had. I would need a cheap reliable source of barrels though. I really would not want to work on some one elses barrel in fear I could damage it.
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    WHAT BORE IS THE O3 ENFIELD?? .308 OR .312 WERENT THESE 303 BRITISH????

    IF I CAN GET AT LEAST 10 CONFIRMED ORDERS AND DEPENDING ON BLANKES BEING AVALIABLE I MAY BE UP TO TOOLING UP AND MAKING SOME OF THESE. COST WILL BE DEPENDANT ON HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE TO GET INTO TURNING THESE DOWN TO THE CORRECT PROFILE. ECT. IF GUYS WANT JUST A CHAMBERD BARREL THEN IT WOULD BE LESS. IM LOOKING AT SOME POSSABLE SOURCES FOR BLANKS. IS THE 7.62X25 A .308 BORE OR A .311,.312 ??????

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    I'm not exactly sure.The ones he showed me were 03a3s and I think they were in 3006.I'm sure there's a chart out there somewhere.

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    The 7.62x25 caliber is used in a .308 bore so any 30-06, 30-30 or 308 barrel is good to use for the project. I don't know why this particular russian caliber varied for the .311 bore used for the 7.62x39 or 7.62x54. ( The 303 British caliber is also a .311 bore.)

    For awhile there were 30-06 remington take off barrels available for cheap. I found one on GunBroker. I still need to find a reamer for 7.62x25 or 30 Mauser but that project is still on the back burner so there is no rush.

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    Hello Tokarev Barrel Guys,
    I looked in Frank Barnes Cartridges of the World to get a handle on the 7.62x25 Tokarev bullet and bore size. No help !!

    So I miked a NIB PPS-43 7.62x25mm barrel using a digital caliper. That revealled a .311 bore the same as my Hungarian AMD-65 AK barrel. A double check via a bore test with an AK bullet (from E. German gray steel ammo) revealled the same bore size.

    The Soviets used the same barrel making and rifling machinery for their Mosin-Nagant rifles, burpguns, SKS's and AK's. Their burpgun barrels were said to be Moisin-Nagant blanks made into three pieces - a handy wartime economy at the urging of "Uncle Joe" Stalin. He could really urge too !!

    The Soviet bores are nearly identical to the Brit .303 (Enfield, Bren, etc). They are also nearly identical to the Jap 7.7mm Arisaka. They are close to the 7.65x53mm Mauser (Argentine, Belgium,and Turk) 1889-1891 rifles which use a .313 inch bullet.

    Maybe one of you fellows would measure a 7.62x25mm Tokarev FMJ bullet and post your findings here. The 7.52x25 Tokarev and 7.63x25 Mauser were both copied from the .30 Bochardt, an American cartridge but they were both loaded a bit hotter. I can't find one tonight in my stuff.

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    OK, so I mispelled Borchardt.
    VD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper Dude View Post

    Maybe one of you fellows would measure a 7.62x25mm Tokarev FMJ bullet and post your findings here. The 7.52x25 Tokarev and 7.63x25 Mauser were both copied from the .30 Bochardt, an American cartridge but they were both loaded a bit hotter. I can't find one tonight in my stuff.

    Later,
    VD

    My Tokarev bullets seem beefier than my 7.62x39 bullets, not sinking into the bore as far, but I haven't mic'd one yet (and I'm in Jamaica this week so I can't until I get back.) but my guess is that they are probably .311 but with a stubbier nose.

    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1biggun View Post
    WHAT BORE IS THE O3 ENFIELD?? .308 OR .312 WERENT THESE 303 BRITISH????

    IF I CAN GET AT LEAST 10 CONFIRMED ORDERS AND DEPENDING ON BLANKES BEING AVALIABLE I MAY BE UP TO TOOLING UP AND MAKING SOME OF THESE. COST WILL BE DEPENDANT ON HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE TO GET INTO TURNING THESE DOWN TO THE CORRECT PROFILE. ECT. IF GUYS WANT JUST A CHAMBERD BARREL THEN IT WOULD BE LESS. IM LOOKING AT SOME POSSABLE SOURCES FOR BLANKS. IS THE 7.62X25 A .308 BORE OR A .311,.312 ??????
    I'd be in for at least one, perhaps two depending on cost.

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    iM TRYING TO GET SPECIFICS ON THE BORE FOR SURE AND THEN THE AVALIABILITY BLANKS OR NEW/GOOD TAKE OFF BARRELS. i HAVE BEEN WANTING TO BUILD ONE ANY WAY SO iLL FOLLOW UP ON THIS. IM GUESSING THAT A .308 WOULD WORK EVEN IF THE BULLET IS .310-.311 . iF i DO IT i WANT TO DO IT RIGHT.

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    The correct bore diameter for the 7.62x25 Tokarev round is .308". The Russians used many .311" Nagant blanks in their subgun production because they already had them and they were acceptable for the application. Surplus ammo is usually between .308"-.309". I have made many Tokarev barrels from .308 blanks and they proved to be very accurate. I don't know who the best source for blanks is currently as I bought mine years ago.

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