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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper Dude View Post
    An op-rod could be used under the receiver tube as was done with the model 50 Reising. A fork like op-rod passed on either side of the magezine to connect with the bolt behind the magwell.
    Hm. I couldn't find an exploded view of a Reising anywhere, but descriptions talk about "delayed blowback with a system of levers."

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    Hello TRX,
    Check Nelson's Submachineguns of the World (Vol 1) for the Reising drawings. (my darn HP scanner doesn't work).
    The Reising model 50 is a delay blowback .45 smg of WW-II fame. The bolt is cylindrical in a thick-wall steel tube receiver. The bolt tilts up at the tail end into a recess area in the receiver tube. The tilting is caused by a small cam edge on the op-rod working on the bottom side of the receiver through a slot.

    The op-rod is also the cocking device and is spring loaded. It is not gas activated. It is a simple delay system. The op-rod is a welded-together fork-like steel strap thing. They sometimes broke at the weldment but can be rewelded better with today's processes. The Garand op-rod is also a welded assembly by the way.

    The levers are actually the trigger sears that release the op-rod and striker hammer (closed bolt system).

    The Reising is a simple and unique design that could have been an assault rifle had there not been such opposition to an AR round by US military brass.

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    Does anyone have an AR barrel extension at hand, that they could measure the length?

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    1.120" long. If you need another measurement let me know.

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    Thanks!

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    My idea for a trunnion would be a simple block to hold the AR barrel extension. It wouldn't necessarily be any longer than the barrel extension, though it might be worthwhile to put a couple of "wings" on it to more-easily attach some rivets.

    Press the AR extension in, then pin it in place in normal AK style. The AR barrel would then screw in.

    The AR bolt is weird-looking. I may have to just buy one so I can inspect it. Meanwhile, it might be possible to turn/grind it down to AK size on the stem and press on a collar to engage the AK bolt carrier cam track. If not, doing a custom bolt carrier would be the next logical step. Then you'd be independent of the three major parts you still have to source from AK kits.

    In the furtherance of taking on more projects than I can handle, I ordered a chunk of 1-3/4 x 1-3/4 1018 steel a while ago.

    At the moment AR bolts cost about the same as AK bolts, and a brand-new barrel extension is $20-ish, vs. $50-ish for used AK bits.

    The trunnion and extension setup looks like a no-brainer, but the bolt/carrier setup will require some thought.

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    At the moment AR bolts cost about the same as AK bolts
    were are you finding AR bolts that cheap??

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    Del-Ton, Inc. AR-15 Barrel Extension

    Del-Ton, Inc. AR-15 Bolt Assembly

    Was thinking along the same lines for a 7.62x25.....

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    The bolts are about $35-$45. It's the bolt carriers that are expensive!

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    I'd look at an AR18 if I were you, they have square carriers, AR style bolt, and piston driven...

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