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    Default factory AK calibers

    I built a list of calibers AKs have been available in. It got out of hand... and when I'd find a reference to one, it would often mention some other cartridge I didn't know had been chambered in.

    These are all factory chamberings. Many weren't imported to the USA. I looked for anything in .300 Savage, which seemed like an obvious factory chambering (FALs were made in .300 for sale in countries that prohibited civilians from owning .308) but I didn't find anything.

    Anyway, here for your perusal:

    factory chamberings:

    AK-47 / AKM pattern
    7.62x39
    5.45x39
    5.56 NATO / .223 Remington

    .308 Winchester - Valmet, Galil
    (7) .30-06 - Valmet
    8mm Mauser - Yugo M-76
    (8) .243 Winchester - Valmet
    (9) .222 Remington - Valmet
    (10) .22 Long Rifle - various

    Saiga
    12ga, 20ga, .410
    .308 Winchester
    7.62x39
    (1)(5) 5.6x39
    (6) 5.45x39
    .223 Remington
    (1) 9.3x53R
    (2) .30-06
    (4) .35 Remington
    (11) .270 Winchester

    Bizon
    (1) 9mm Parabellum
    (1) 9x18 Makarov
    (3) .380 ACP
    (3) 7.62x25

    Romanian PSL
    7.62x54R

    Tigr
    (1) .308 Winchester
    (1) 7.62x54R
    (1) 9.3x64


    (1) www.izhmash.ru
    (2) though .30-06 Saigas have been imported to the USA and pictures
    and reviews are plentiful, the '06 is no longer listed on the
    Izhmash site as of 12/09
    (3) Wikipedia lists .380 ACP and 7.62x25, which are certainly doable,
    but not listed on the Izhmash site on 12/09.
    (4) One of Saiga's promotional pictures showed a rifle plainly marked
    ".35 Remington". I can't find any hits on google now, though, so
    that might have been only a prototype
    (5) they don't list 5.45x39 on the Izhmash page, so I think this might
    be what they're calling 5.45 now? 12/09
    (6) 5.45x39 Saigas exist in the US market, though the caliber isn't
    listed on the Izhmash web site as of 12/09
    (7) Valmet Hunter
    (8) valmet.org, Valmet M76, European market
    (9) valmetweapons.com, M76 for French market
    (10) East German training rifles, commercial (Italian?) models imported
    to the USA in the 1980s
    (11) "Shooting Industry" magazine, April 2003, said EAA would be importing
    Saigas in .270. Not listed on the Izhmash site as of 12/09


    (gunco's editor hosed my nicely-formatted chart when I pasted it in, but it's still more-or-less readable...)

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    Good start, but don't take the Izhmash site as gospel...they offer many many more items that are not listed on their site.

    The Romanian PSL is also made in .308 Win.

    The TIGR you know is not an AK, but you can add 30-06 to that list as well. ;-)

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    I"m sorry, but the Bizon and Tigr are not Kalashnikovs.

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    Might want to check what the Vepr was made in they made some very cool custom stuff as well. I have seen the 35 Rem as coming soon some were a few years ago. I hade a site listed called operaton Vepr thast had beautifull sporting and taarget versions with cold enlay and engraving but the link no longer works.

    The 300 savage is IMOO a very logical choice. however its so simular to the 308/ 7.62 Nato that i suspect it never gets consideration.

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    says they made a 270 here and It seems that I read about one years ago. that site is gone unfortunatly.VEPR. RIFLES RIFLES: SEMI-AUTO

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    Looks like Saiga has thinned out their product line. Back in Dec '09 their web site listed:

    9.3x53R
    .35 Remington
    .30-06
    .308 Win
    7.62x39
    .270 Win
    5.6x39
    5.45x39
    .223 Rem

    As of 07/02/2010:

    9.3x53R
    .308 Win
    7.62x39
    5.6x39
    .223 Rem

    They've dropped .30-06, .35 Rem, and .270... and they're not listing 5.45 any more, though a bunch of those hit the US market not long ago.

    I'd never heard of the 5.6x39, and just spent a bunch of time comparing case dimensions before I found that it's called the ".220 Russian" over here, and mostly known for being the parent case of the 6mm PPC wildcat.

    Anyway, FYI.

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    I believe the 300 Savage FAL's were gunsmith conversions for those countries. FN didn't make them in 300 Savage. Poland had an experimental cartridge for an AK action before they adopted the Tantal. I think it was 7x41. They published quite a bit info on it.

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    Some of the 9x39 rifles have AK actions but not all of them do.

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    OTs-11 and AK-9.
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