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    I have a Hadar II stock coming. Now I have to figure out what to do with it...

    The Hadars used milled Galil receivers, angled up in the front. As far as I can tell they were all in .308.

    I'll be doing a scratchbuilt sheet metal receiver. Various Valmet models (Galils were licensed Valmets) used stamped receivers. I posted pictures of several of them on the general AK subforum. I'll use .060/.062 4130 stock and thin a spare Romanian trunnion to match, like the thick-receiver Norincos.

    Somewhere I saw a picture of a stamped Valmet that showed the weld; they just bent the sides, cut a V, bent the angle, welded, then bent and trimmed the top rails, apparently. With fancy dies they could have just stamped it bent and done the top rails on the next top. Load across the weld is compression due to recoil, so it shouldn't hurt. Lots of .060 thick milled rewelds out there working just fine, too.

    I need to see if I can find some of those flat, low-profile rivets some AK variants used. I'll have to clearance the stock to clear the rivets.

    I'll probably dispense with the iron sights entirely and used a top cover mounted scope. A side rail won't clear the Hadar stock.

    So, I expect to have a nice targetty-looking rifle with a wood stock. Now I'm wavering about what cartridge. .300 Savage or 6.5 Grendel look good so far...
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    Hmm, looks like reamerrentals.com has 6.5 Grendel reamers. The ballistics look nice for an x39-length cartridge. Now to keep an eye out for a reasonably-priced 6.5 barrel.

    Onlinemetals.com has 12x12" sheets of .063 4130 for $15.33+shipping.

    I just realized the Hadar probably uses a slant-cut receiver since it's a Galil inside. I'll have to make a rear trunnion to fit.

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    Hello TRX,
    That is a very novel project !!!
    The FSGB may be a bit of a challenge.
    Optics and a can would be very special looking as well as functional.

    VD

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    I think I'm going to just use an ordinary vertical gas block and forego the iron sights entirely. I know those $19.95 top covers with the scope mounts are probably flimsy, but I figured I'd give one of those a try before looking for a "Hunter" style cover.

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    check out air craft spruce for metal i have a bunch of flat material from them. maybe a galil gas tube. were did you find the stock??? id like to have one myself.

    I can do a 300 SAV chamber if you need one.

    I hav ealways liked those. I have a wood sagia 308 stock and a 12 guafe wood fore grip to playu with but would love to do a Super Vepr clone.

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    were did you find the stock??? id like to have one myself.
    One of the guys on another forum had it. He had converted the rifle into a Galil. I asked if he still had the Hadar bits left over and he made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

    Considering a Galil's value is considerably higher than a Hadar, I can sort of understand... except it would only make sense if you bought the gun to resell in the first place.

    Since my wife insists the Hadar is hers, I'm faced with the problem of acquiring a second stock. There's a bozo spamming various fora with ads for his "spectacular" stock duplicator for only $1200; it looks like I could duplicate the thing for under $50, maybe less depending on what I can scrounge up in the shop. It would still require sanding and final inletting, but I could deal with that. ("Dammit Jim, I'm a machinist, not a woodcarver!")

    *If* this comes about, bearing in mind the number of unfinished projects I have on the list, I'll happily make a few extras.

    If you know anyone who has a stock duplicator and doesn't want an arm and a leg to use it, I'd be even happier to just send it on to them, though.

    As a fallback, rifle-stocks.com has their "Tac-Driver" stock for $139. Their web site only shows it with a Ruger 10/22 action, and you have to dig a bit before you find they offer that style with any action or in any laminate, and they also offer it mirror-imaged to left hand. They're extra-cost options, but not expensive. The bottom picture is the color I like, called "Electric Blue." They also do ordinary Claro walnut or subdued laminates.

    What got me to thinking about that was the realization that the big sheet metal AK box really isn't that big compared to some of the long bolt actions, and an AK receiver at 1-1/4 inches wide is actually narrower than most. I need to call them and see how wide their receivers are. It might be possible to inlet an AK action directly into one of those.
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    IMOO the sporting versions of the AK variants will be the ones collectabke and worth the big money some day because tere all being bubad into assult clones. the guns that become collectable are the ones that are rare and unmolested.

    I feel there needs to be more sporting variants being imported. the full stock super vepr's are some of the most elegant AK variants out there and some idiot will detroy them with a $5 pistol grip and a bunch of mall ninja crap to make it look look like one of 80 million assullt style weapons already out there.

    one of those stocks on a mosin build would be cool LOL

    here is the start of my heavy flutted barrel californa legal 300 savage. or possable a 243 havent decided yet. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1biggun View Post
    one of those stocks on a mosin build would be cool LOL
    Uuhhh... you can get it inlet for the Mosin at no extra charge. I've never dealt with the company before, but I plan to.

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    Anyone have a line on an inexpensive 6.5mm barrel? Chambering doesn't matter, as long as the barrel is long enough I can shorten and rechamber it.

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    Id get one from midway for around $80 thats what we used for the 6.5 grendal VZ 58 he reports it shoots really good. there are some on numrich like HC used for the sweede but I think the Midway was a good choice and its unmolested. If you do find a source thats better PM me. I spent a few days back when looking at options before going with Midway.

    That haydar would look even cooler with a 260 remington built on a 308 saiga. thats what Id do with it.

    one of those stocks inletted for a mosin might be just the ticket Im thinking real hard about getting one. If you could get them to inlet it for a AK reciver or just leave it un cut thensome really cool sporting AKs could be built. Id like one for the 17 fire ball Im thinking about.

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