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    Default .357 ak

    Is their a mag for the .357 other than a coonan ? I thinking of a conversion AK in .357.
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    The only other ones i can think of are the ones for the desert eagle and some rotary mags for some ruger rifles
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    Roatry for river, humm got a link for them? please. Muttman

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    Have you considered a 9mm win mag or 9mmx24 same power an a 7.62x25 mag will work.

    I relaize 357 brass is every were but a rimless would be easier . you could possably add a block to the back of a 223 mag with a slot for the rims. maybe ??????????????

    I lke like the 357 also considered a converson to go along with my Ruger Black Hawk 357. im thinking you would need a single stack mag of some sort. .

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    here is what they look like in a Galil blank firing mag. note the spacer block welded in the front so a regular 223 round with a bullet will not fit. i thught thye would be good for maybe a tokerov or rimmles pistol build . there cheap enough to cut up for parts if needed they have a short length sprin an a short follower so there good to have for various ideas.

    the mag is only 10 round ( will hold 12) o but there only $9. PM for info.

    a guy could make a insert to slide the rims into so they single stack pretty easy likely have to pinch the lips in or just make it feed from one side with a spacer on the other side so the rounds stay in before loaded. . i was playing with this a week ago. was looking at doing a 44mag this way as well.

    starline makes good 9mm extra long brass so If i do one ill likely go that route.

    Im thinking this will need to be a gas operated set up .

    btw those mags would be perfect for a 7.62x25 witha 180 frain bullet for a subsonic applicatiion . I was going to see how a 17 fire ball an 22 fire ball an m1 carbine fit them. they seem to cheap to ignore . if you can ake them work a standard 223 mag would be no differant just have to add the spacers/.
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    bg,
    that is what Im looking for. you da man!!!!!
    a rimless .357 case would be nice but for ease of reloading and $$ a standerd .357 will work for what I want. now off to find a barrel. muttman

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    If you're just wanting a rimless 357 case, just cut 223 cases off at the shoulder, open them up and turn the necks. Then you have a case that can be loaded to 55k-60k psi and cheap. You can get 357max velocity out of it pretty easy. In an ar15 I went with 357 max length loaded to 55k-60k psi and I'm getting some impressive velocities out of it even though reforming the shoulder into a neck is a PITA. Starting at or below the shoulder would greatly simplify case making.
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    Moleman,
    This one is gunna be a strate blow back build. the $$ spent on this one needs to be @ 0 so if all I have in to it is barrel, a few mags then Ill be safe with the boss. BTW, I do like the idea of reforming .223 brass to make a rimless .357 case that would make making the boldt head easy, and the case rim to mag prob.
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    Sorry, missed the blowback part. You'd want to keep the gas piston and locking bolt with the higher psi ones I was talking about. The 223 cases are easy to modify if cut below the shoulder. About all you'd need to do is turn the necks to reduce the thickness a bit.

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    wont you need a Heavy bolt for the 357? my openion it might be easier to make it gas op. if you had a 74 bolt you could run the 223 cases

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