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    I had forgotten all about this thread. The guy that was hitting me up about it has A.D.D., so he switches interests at the drop of a hat. I'm still interested in doing it, but since the insanity has hit and parts and ammo are almost non existent, it'll have to wait. I really do like the 300 BO though. If things ease up I really would love to get an AR upper to start with, then eventually do an AK build with it. Use an AR magwell adaptor, and then I could swap PMAGS back n forth, like I do with my Galil.
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    Thanks! Chris!

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    http://texasakdesigns.com/products-p...t-ak74-barrel/

    here is a 74 profile 300 black out bbl

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    I got one what the hell lol

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    Ouch!!!! Sorry. :-(
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    Isn't VZ58 building those or built those a while back?
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    I cant get the link to open what is the price on the 300 BO barrel?

    On a ak 74 kit it might be a good choice other wise Id stick to a 7.62x39 .

    VZ 58 is big into the 300 I think . he would have a lot of the answers.

    I dont buy into all the new supper bullet an super better BC crap that is floating around the barnes bullet is no better BC than the factory Horandy x39 vmax . the AR guys seem to think if its got a cool tactical name an goes in a AR it magically defies the laws of physics an science .

    i was feed a bunch of info on it an all the better .308 BC bullets an the super expansion fromt he new barnes copper what ever an how its a great military round ,

    The fact is the gun is not a militaty weapon the bullet would never meet the rules for combate the round is untested in combat an the BC is not any better than any of the other stuff thats been out for years. A lotof big names trying to push this round including remnington that will likley drop support as soon as a new wonder round comes a along they can hype . I bet Remington would like a government contract to sell guns an ammo in it .

    dont believe me look up the BC on the factroy hpornady vmax an the compare to the the barnes supper bullet the x39 is better . zif there were balistic improvemnet of such great gains to be had the the 30 BR crowd would have had it 20 years ago .


    Its a great round if you have a 223 bolt face an are stuck with ar mags an a AR length mag well . out side of that there is a lot of hype . Its slower than a x39 .

    the its a better subsonic round is getting old . i bet less than one percent of owners have a suppressor. I have loaded subsonic x39 with no issues .

    Im not saying its a bad round just its not some miracle round . Id be interested because of the cheap 223 brass . It would be nice if it was a 1/4" longer

    I might do a barrel on my switch barrel just to have one an use the 223 bolt I have .

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    I cant get the link to open what is the price on the 300 BO barrel?

    On a ak 74 kit it might be a good choice other wise Id stick to a 7.62x39 .

    VZ 58 is big into the 300 I think . he would have a lot of the answers.

    I dont buy into all the new supper bullet an super better BC crap that is floating around the barnes bullet is no better BC than the factory Horandy x39 vmax . the AR guys seem to think if its got a cool tactical name an goes in a AR it magically defies the laws of physics an science .

    i was feed a bunch of info on it an all the better .308 BC bullets an the super expansion fromt he new barnes copper what ever an how its a great military round ,

    The fact is the gun is not a militaty weapon the bullet would never meet the rules for combate the round is untested in combat an the BC is not any better than any of the other stuff thats been out for years. A lotof big names trying to push this round including remnington that will likley drop support as soon as a new wonder round comes a along they can hype . I bet Remington would like a government contract to sell guns an ammo in it .

    dont believe me look up the BC on the factroy hpornady vmax an the compare to the the barnes supper bullet the x39 is better . zif there were balistic improvemnet of such great gains to be had the the 30 BR crowd would have had it 20 years ago .


    Its a great round if you have a 223 bolt face an are stuck with ar mags an a AR length mag well . out side of that there is a lot of hype . Its slower than a x39 .

    the its a better subsonic round is getting old . i bet less than one percent of owners have a suppressor. I have loaded subsonic x39 with no issues .

    Im not saying its a bad round just its not some miracle round . Id be interested because of the cheap 223 brass . It would be nice if it was a 1/4" longer

    I might do a barrel on my switch barrel just to have one an use the 223 bolt I have .

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    Price is $150 for their barrel.

    Remember the key point that the 300 Blackout allows AR owners to have "AK-style" performance with a cartridge that feeds reliably in the system. All for the cost of a new barrel!

    The Russians found the x39 subsonic didn't perform that well for a plethora of reasons. Which drove them to the 9x39 development.

    The 300 Blackout bullets must use a specific ogive for them to work properly in magazines. That's where most of the BC "crap" revolves around. Making these specific bullets perform at their best.


    I don't own an AR, nor do I have any 300 Blackout guns built, so it doesn't mean much to me. But thinking it through, the AR platform has several factors that drive its development. Keep in mind that many "gun" situations such as LE, security firms, etc. will never be allowed to use AK-styel firearms. Period. Simply won't happen due to the fact that LE lawsuits could be negatively impacted by the notion that they used "AK Machineguns" to take down a suspect. Media feeding frenzy. Using the well-adopted and beloved AR platform mitigates those issues.

    Also keep in mind supply chains. You have an easy-to-maintain platform with the AR. You can find AR parts in the local grocery store in some places! j/k The point is that if a LE agency were to adopt an AK platform, who would they go to for maintenance and parts? TRUE - the AK platform is becoming more pervasive and more adopted, but the DE FACTO STANDARD in the USA is the AR platform.

    And yes the gun IS in use by the military. No one will say by whom and for what reason, but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out where these are probably being used. I'm all for the hush-hush secrecy around its actual use in the field because it helps keep those guys safe if the bad guys don't know to expect it. As far as "rules for combat" I doubt seriously that would be a factor. If it was suddenly adopted by the military as THE main round then they would of course have to use a FMJ round for Geneva Convention rules. In truth I don't think that applies to Special Operations stuff... really can't say for certain. Perhaps it does and they just put that under the "you guys are in deep shit if you get caught" category!


    So. How would YOU build the AR platform into something that performs better? AR-10 you say. Well that's a good idea but another can of worms. Keeping the platform as "standard" as possible is paramount to use. Costs are a factor for agencies and firms. AR-47 you say. Fine and good, but requires more part conversion, and therefore more cost. With the 300 Blackout you have the ability to put more of those funds into ammunition and training. Any other solution, including the 6.8 SPC (My brother's favorite) introduces too many cost factors.

    Now for the average Joe home builder like me most of this won't matter. Which makes your points completely valid. In many cases the 6.8 SPC will perform better than the 300 Blackout. But it does fill a niche and its ease of conversion make it one of the easiest ways to get off of the .223 platform. Making it a winner IMNSHO!
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    Its around designed for a AR an its restrictive magwell. the AR is what 50 years old now? How long is our military going to keep try.ing to milk it ? as far as cost concerns and stuff they don't seem to have a problem wasting money on every other new fangled gadget for the military.

    to me its attractive because it uses uses cheap ass brass an a 308 bore. Id have little use for it on a AR . I have a 308 sa.

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