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    Gunco Veteran Lt762x39's Avatar
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    Mag,

    If your into the design try a book called '' Firearm Silencers" by John A. Minnery There are 2 volumes to the series its published by Desert Publications
    the ISBN (the number assigned to books (helps book worms locate books )) is ISBN 0-87947-050-X



    http://www.paladin-press.com/detail.aspx?ID=387

    http://www.paladin-press.com/detail.aspx?ID=1152

    http://www.paladin-press.com/detail.aspx?ID=411

    If you do a search for firearm silencers page# 4 is paydirt. I would copy and paste all related stuff but its way to time consuming. have a great Christmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windage and Elevation
    hmmmm - Maybe that's it. I thought that supressor / silencer indicated two different things. Perhaps that is not the case.

    "Silencer" is the term that was used by the manufacturers (and users) for many decades after they first appeared and is the legal term used in the regulations. "Suppressor" came into use mainly because lots more civillians started buying and using them in the last few decades.

    A lot of buyers were upset when their expensive new toy didn't work quite as effectively as James Bond's did on the big screen. Seems "silencer" tends to make people think the product eliminates all noise from the shot. The manufacturers and the magazine articles reviewing them started using the term "suppressor" as it more accurately describes what is happening to the sound. It also lets people understand that not all sound is eliminated, just reduced. Less unhappy customers.

    Legally there is no difference. ANY device designed to reduce the noise of a shot is considered a silencer no matter what you call it or how ineffective it is.

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    silencertests.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windage and Elevation
    hmmmm - Maybe that's it. I thought that supressor / silencer indicated two different things. Perhaps that is not the case.
    A guy I know made his own, he said it worked real well, then the BATF raided his house and he is unable to ever own a gun again. He got off with no jail time but he was lucky, he was otherwise convicted. He bragged about his success to guys he worked with and someone turned him in. He said he didn't think that just making his .22 at grandmas farm more quite for shooting varmits would be illegal. Well he's paid the price.

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    Ac,

    I have heard such stories to. I had a buddy of mine get popped for building a full auto sten. It was allegedly built. Some one said he did and with things like that your guilty till proven innocent. The last time that I seen him he was at a gun show selling all of his AKs and SKss with all of the ammo he had so he could cover his legal costs. His party was the FBI and the local sheriff. He said for me to stay away from the house for a while...... I never got a chance to say good bye before I moved out of state.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by panaceabeachbum
    they are indeed legal for the homebuilder to make after submitting and receiving an approved form 1 along with a couple of finger print cards and getting local law enforcement in your area to sign the application
    Getting the sig is the hard part. The local L.E. where I am in NC does NOT sign any paperwork for anyone to get a full auto or a silencer period!
    Its all about politics.

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    same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirate56
    you need proper licensing to build a supressor, I would suggest you contact a licensed dealer about purchasing one. building one on your own is ileagle and not something anyone here would do.
    I'm very suprised at that response. I would expect somthing similar from a non gun site but not here and esp not from you pirate

    as allready stated silencers are legal to build. once you pay your $200 and have a approved form 1 in hand
    http://www.titleii.com/pdf/010205-Form1.pdf

    it's exactly the same process as building a SBR, SBS, AOW or DD

    ar15 thread on a home built 22RF silencer
    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=20&t=199744

    silencertests home build forum
    http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/vi...326902036b98db

    more designs
    http://www.geocities.com/kaiya_bird/suppressors.htm

    I'd also suggest the two books by Al Paulson: Silencer, History and Performance Volume One, and Volume Two

    And finally for those that can't get a signoff just USE A TRUST!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirate56
    you need proper licensing to build a supressor, I would suggest you contact a licensed dealer about purchasing one. building one on your own is ileagle and not something anyone here would do.
    No it isn't.

    You just jump through the hoops, wait for the paperwork, and do it.

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