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    I started off thinking " why " when you could just use a pps-43 kit and save yourself a lot of hassle but then again you can't use drums in a PPS-43. I suppose you could pick up a pps-43 kit for the barrel and bolt and move the kp-44 rear mag well block back a bit to use the bigger ppsh-41 mags. .

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    Hello chip,
    The KP-44 bolt is fine with the 7.62x25mm Tokarev ammo. Use the PPS-43 barrel for the caliber change from 9x19mm

    A PPSh-41 drum and stick mag will as you mentioned require a bit of fitting to work in the KP-44 mag well. The KP-44 drum I believe is a SUOMI 9mm item and a little thinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bustermchooter View Post
    an the KP44 be made to shoot the 7.62x25 round?
    You could, but why bother... build the PPSh-41, it's much nicer... alternatively the PPS-43 would be a cheaper alternative.

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    The KP-44 would make a handy drum-fed pistol in 7.62x25mm Tokarev.
    The PPSh-41 could also be a drum-fed pistol with some furniture rework. Either one will need a barrel as most of the parts kits are now missing the barrels.

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    All the KP-44 kits I've seen including the ones copes is selling have barrels Same with the PPSH-41 kits. The PPS -43 are the only ones Ive seen without barrels. I know where a real nice PPS-43 kit with a barrel for $150 I'm trying to decide on buying or not. I need more kits like I need another hole in my head

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    Keep in mind that the KP-44 barrel is 9x19mm not 7.62x25 Tokarev !!! This stuff could be a bit confusing. There are a few PPS-43 7.62x25mm barrels out there.

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    So all you have to do to run 7.62x25 in a kp is swap the barrel? Wouldn't you have to use a pps-43 magwell and mags?

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    Hello 65cobra,
    Correct !!! A bit more room is needed in the KP-44 magwell area for the fatter mags. I'd use the PPSh-41 mags and drum as part of the conversion.

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    Not correct. The PPS barrel is thinner than the KP barrel and will not fit the KP-44 trunnion . You'd have to make a hybrid of the receivers and trunnions to get it to work.

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    I got a KP-44 kit from Copes and just sent the bolt to Greg Clark for modifications. I'm still waiting for the receiver section and trunnion from MGS.

    This is going to be one ugly a$$ gun.
    I think a form one is going to be sent in for this one.

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