if you were to log all the commodities, fuel,food, and misc. items you utilize from the outside world over a 2 to 3 month period you would get a real wake up call. 'self suffiency' defined at the "Grizzley Adams" level is impossible for anyone existing in a modern society . 'survival' is another topic. before anyone starts stocking ammo and MRE's i think the mind needs to be placed in the appropriate gear. it's not a game. when you factor in the needs of others in your life the task takes on a new personality. how often we fail to recognize the needs of other people because someone else is in charge of that aspect of their life. my wife and i would be fine, but the fact that my Mom lives one house away, alone, and my Father in law, poor health, lives in the apt in my house, gives an entirely different meaning to " being prepared". animals are another aspect. over the years i've changed my priorities on the subject and now hold mobility in the top tier of my needs. i could move 10 miles in any direction and the whole picture would change.