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    What do you consider to sufficient amounts of ammo to stock for your rifles? Pistols?

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    "Sufficient" for what? The answer for "no more available, better stock a lifetime supply" versus "how much do you keep on hand for weekend range visits before you re-order next month" is gonna vary a lot. Also, what is the purpose and caliber of the firearms? The .30-06 bolt action deer rifle may get a whole box of 20 shot through it every year between pre-hunt sight verification and the actual hunt, a few hundred rounds would be an almost lifetime supply for that gun and the tasks it is normally used for. A belt fed 1919A4 with a crankfire attachment? Real easy to go through a thousand rounds in an afternoon, that's just 4 belts.

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    Pistol ammo about 500rds per pistol of that size.
    Rifle ammo about 1000 to 1500rds per rifle of that size.
    Or what ever you can pack if you need to bug-out.

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    I agree with the last post. 500 pistol and 1000-1500 rifle is a good start. i also keep at least 250 00buck stocked with a random assortment of shot as well as a few boxes of slugs, too. 12ga ammo is some of the most prevalent inthe world and will be easy to find.
    i also stock pile cases of the federal .22lr ammo. i also shoot the daylights out of my marlin.22 anyways
    I also have a marlin.17 hm2 with 500 rounds on hand .
    then again, carrying all of this, along with guns, will be very difficult if we have to dip out in a hurry.
    From a purely survival standpoint, its wise to have a pellet rifle.
    I know that it sounds silly,but i also keep a ton of .177 and .22 air rifle ammo on hand if I need to hunt for food and don't want all of the noise that comes with a powder burner.(to keep your position concealed)also for those pesky squirrells and raccoons too.
    i think of having ammo as not only a defensive measure, but for trading and bartering if the world goes down the toilet and we all have to fend for ourselves for water, food and shelter, etc.
    This may sound unpopular, but when the fit hits the shan, I expect that the ak47 will become nothing more than a really cool paperweight due to ammo constraints after the dust has settled. look at 7.62 ammo now-hard to get and really expensive. Almost ALL of it is imported. so i keep multiple caliber rifles in my home with enough ammo for all of them. My doctrine has changed in the past 6 months. Instead of buying cool new guns, i now spend that money to keep the ones that i have fed!
    stick with the 30-.06, 12 and 20 ga shotgun and .22 lr ammo. .45 acp and 9mm, .38 ammo have all been around for decades and can be found almost anywhere.
    just my rant

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    I have found that the amount of ammo that you can afford is probably the best reply to the question. I have failed in that at least one time; back when we could get 8mm for pennies I only bought a few thousand rounds... I have regretted it ever since. Remember that some calibers will become harder to get ammo for. I remember the day when we thought we were getting ripped off for 7.62x39 at $70.00 , and last month I purchased 3k rounds at $179.00 per case... it could well be that the ammo will dry up as it did for the 8mm or rise significantly like the .223 or other rounds.
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    I want to recreationally shoot long term, and see ammo prices going up and availability going down. My goal is 1,000 rounds stored per long gun and pistol, with 10,000 rounds per .22. Aim for a high percentage of reloadable brass in your stockpile. I periodically swap out ammo to keep it fresh.

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    Bug out? I guess if you hear over the tube type radio that survived the EMP that a massive ground force was moving in you direction. You would Bug out someway with the UZI, a couple of the AK's, several of the AR15's plus, several of your pistols. Every mag stuffed with one in the chaimber too. That quick escape ammo crate should have several boxes of the ammo for all of these weapons. If you know early enough to pack more. Grab the MAUSER and a case of 8mm too for the run. That one can hold off plenty of melons coming at you. The one next to them sees there Head/melon explode and they pull back.

    Solar panels with a good series regulator will keep you able to listen to news. Forget about transmitting. They can set your point in a minute for Artillery.

    Canned food and an opener. A couple of good sharp knives. Something that can hold water.

    In the city or in the out and open? I don't know which would be best? Lots of cover in the city. Lots of other targets besides you.

    At the farm, clear open line of fire. You would be the only target. Attractive point for the enemy to occupy a safe point away from police and military.

    The most important thing is to keep your wits about you! Don't just start shooting at folks you see walking around with weapons. Those folks can be your allies?

    If you have to take some enemy out, drop their communications first. And then, nail long range weapons implacements. AND TRY NOT TO BE NOTICED!!!! Keep your position covered.

    Obtain some gas masks and have for last resort use. Extra filters are a must have item. Know how to deploy these mask under stressed conditions.

    If you have kids, please teach them how to load mags and dress wounds.

    GOD help the elderly which will be left behind helpless.

    Yes the prices for ammo and defence articles have gone way up. But, it is better to sting a bit now and get it. After the democrats win later this year, we will be on a straight down crash in almost every way toward dissolution of this country.

    Too many are standing with their hand out voting for someone who will promiss to carry them on the working man's dollars.

    It is great to see all of you thinking ahead for the times that are coming. It just may be possible for some of us to survive and regroup as a nation like this once was again? However, it is going to cost a lot to do again.

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    I finally got my wife to come out with me and the other guys(along with their wives). My wife took to shooting like a duck to water.
    The other wives sat out after pulling the .40 trigger twice.
    She got my mossy 590 pump, rem 700 .308, WASR10, .357 magnum, .17 Marlin, XD40, Ruger 9mm and 1911 .45acp.
    My 4 year old even shot a ruger mark2 .22lr a few times and loved it.

    Teach your loved ones to use and respect firearms. It may save their lives one day.

    Nobody should be afraid of guns, be afraid of the nutjob pointing the gun at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye Mole View Post
    I want to recreationally shoot long term, and see ammo prices going up and availability going down. My goal is 1,000 rounds stored per long gun and pistol, with 10,000 rounds per .22. Aim for a high percentage of reloadable brass in your stockpile. I periodically swap out ammo to keep it fresh.

    Well said. With that, .22lr "bulk ammo" (sold in the 500-550 count boxes-Walmart) are very cheaply made and should not be considered reliable by any means. These are meant for plinking and target applications.
    I CANNOT begin to tell you how many times I have had a squirrel in my sights, only to pull the trigger and a loud "click" gives my position away.

    The unreliable nature of these rounds can be attributed to lax manufacturing standards as well as the fact that they do not always have a fixed amount of primer in the bottom of the rimfire shell.The nature of rimfire ammo also makes them more succeptable to moisture. I used to keep a spare box (about 40 shells CCI) in the garage, untill I tried using them a year later.
    EVEry single one of these shells left the barrel with little more than the power of a thrown rock. They made a very muffled, retarded "pop", not the crisp SNAP" that a .22 should make. These rounds did not penetrate the untreated 2x4 that I aimed at, they all bounced off. I have moved all ammo inside, and into waterproof ammo boxes along with the other emergency supplies.
    Before a shoot, I purchase a new box of whatever shells I will be using, and take the older stock with me to shoot(replacing it with the new box).
    I have since repeated this experiment with Remington and federal-all with the same results....."duds"
    CCI, Hornady, remington, Federal etc-sold in the smaller packs are a much better choice. Not like you'll ever need to use a .22lr for self defense(hopefully), but If you were presented with a survival situation and had to feed your family, every meal that gets away, may never return.

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    I don't buy any CCI anything!!!!

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