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    Hi VEt,
    Your right about the average cop on the beat, as long as you can verify to him your the legal owner of said gold there wouldnt be any problem at all, hell he would more than likely stand ther and hold the door for ya. and make sure you dont get robbed. But the Goverment Officals will make sure that you dont have it for long. And myself I supplement my income with my metal detectors. and I have done fairly well when I have gone out. But like many others I know who do the same thing if its a modern peice and theres identifaction with it, it goes back to the owner. If not myself and others will watch and see who reports it lost and then return it. If not then its it can be rightfully claimed by myself or whom ever finds it, now the draw back to this is if make a mega find, If You say anything at all considerit gone and it will be claimed by what ever goverment says its theres, like gold from spanish ships, Bronze cannons and other little things that no-one wants ( Yeah Right!) My standing is you didnt do the ligitmate work to recover this item so keep your paws off it is my motto. And you are dead on the money ( no pun intended !) never have over 9,999.00 on your person or in your bank account. If you open a new account and the minute you put in ten thousand dollars or more The IRS is Automatically notifed no way around it, theres a flag in the banking system that takes care of reporting the deposit it electronically. Sometimes it will catch up with you and sometimes it don.t now if its a check issuded by the Goverment such as Social Security veterans, and so forth or a disability settlement, usally nothing is done beacuse its not what is considered earned taxable income ( but with the current jackasses in office who knows what will happen next!) But the bottom line is you dont tell a soul unless you can really trust that person! remember the goverment offers rewards for turning people in, but what they dont tell you is that, your name is added to a watch list as well as the person you turned in, Beacuse the goverment figures your in the same bussiness there for you are guilty just by knowing the person and if they can establish a realtionship between you and another party.Its always best to keep the Goverment out of ones bussiness that is not what they were placed into public office for , but they seem to forget that. And There are some things that you just know but you dont dare do anything about itIll give an example, The is a police agency in the united states ( I cannot disclose where or what state, I dont care to have a reservation at the crowbar hotel!) that used to dump weapons in a lake in 55 gallion barrels and they were weighed down so they could never pop up and if there was a dollar value to be placed on what is down there even I couldnt do it. That agency had been dumping weapons in this body of water. I know one of the Officers that used to oversea this operation before they went to melting them down. and he overseen this operation for fifteen years so you can imagine how many weapons are in that body of water and itds so big they would dump in diffrent areas. and they are even exemp from the mess this dumping may have or will cause. But it just goes to show what goes on and what we dont know. I tried to get a federal permit for salvaging some old planes that went down not far from here, I got a friend who has a ship for salvage, I know right where I want start have been there and seen the wreckage, the pilot was not killed, he bailed out, But under George Bush he put into effet a law that any salavage of underwater wreckage of United States planes or other equipment that wound up in the drink, can be considered a burial site at sea or however the law is worded I forget the actuall words now, But the US Militart wont even clean up thier own mess. Ok Ill admit I had an alturnative motive! there are TWO Corseair Military aircrafts, sitting at the bottom in about 75 feet of fresh water not salt! I wrote everyone I could, an no dice and in may situations no-one bothered to answer. I could have mad a small fortune on just these two items alone, But im not giving up. I wont steal these, but let me find one person in the goverment that will give me a signed permission slip to recover these items and Ill be nice and comfy, Bur Ill be dammed if I tell them what I salvage, remember its finders keepers ! unless you want to share, my only thing is I have to find 2 qualifed Divers. because I cannot dive due to my medical conditions! Hopefully I can make this happen one day, Wghat I could Use is a good Navy Or Marine Diver,But once its mine its Mine! and the goverment will have nothing to say and Ill make it so they cant renig on the aggreement. any ideas vet? if so just give me a pm....Doc

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thIDvet View Post
    Doc. Well said.. But the law kind of frowns on vigilante justice.. Oh not the Police Officer on the beat, he or she is in your corner..
    But if a report is filed, those damn liberal commie Attorney General's pick it up.
    Now the jury gets to decide..
    Hence the inception of the "Stand Your Ground Law." Gave the Police a little breathing room to do the right thing.
    SSS. "Shoot Shovel and Shut up."
    For sure that was not legal money gold crossing that border. But what the hell, everybody has a little problem from the past in the wood pile.. Those idiots just got unlucky, Got caught they did..
    Hi ya Vet
    I dont Consider it viglante justice. Justice as defined in this country can be broken down into three catigories actualluy

    1. In this country you can get the best justice money can BUY!!

    2 If you cannot affor a lawyer, we will give you the worst idoit that graduated at the bottom of his or her Law School Class, which will guerentee that you lose the case!

    3. Many people ask these days ask "Justice what is Justice? Justice is actually spelled and pornounced a little bit diffrent wrong in these cases, Justice as defined is as follows,>>>>>>> JUST US !

    Nothing else matters in a court of law its all numbers, hey we got you, you fit the description, so therefore you must be guilty

    my case and point the democrats want to take awat our 2nd amendment rights, No wher in the @nd amendment dose it state that you can only own shotguns and blackpowder muskets and revolvers. It dose not limit the amount of arms that a citizan can own, nor dose it state what caliber, but the majority of the lazy I want everything democrats !are attempting to posion the equalazation factor by pulling republicans to thier side ,, Now the major question is what did the demopcrats promise the republicans? Granted everyone has to work together or at least they are supposed to. But from what I have seen in the past years is that in all actuallity, the only thing that matter to a politican is that he or she gets re-elected, they get thier special ear marks ( which by the way obama said was going bye bye, and yet there still here in our political system,
    no-one likes to lose but it appears that democrats do everthing in thier power eathier legal or not and by illegal that also includes ethics! which they can be removed from office for if they get to many or the ethics violation is serious enough to warrent dismissel
    I sure wish I listened to my step father when I was young, I would have taken a diffrent path in life, of course I would have more than likely had a few pot shots taken at me Im sure, But the salieries that these people get are outragious, I would become a politican to help the people not to get rich. Like they do these days. they get a freee house , there food is paid for and yet they keep sticking it to the little people with taxes
    and the costs of all thier expensive trips. I am currently drafting a letter to send to the White House regarding Pelosi's blaintaint misuse of Goverment Property by flying everywhere and ordering expensive booze on the cuff of the tax payer that is mis approation of funds, and in most cases draw a small prison sentence and restituation which is fine with me , because then the hag is out of office! I have been keeping a tab on who dose what, and it will all be layed out in a multipage document, and just so the White house can;t comment say they didnt recevie irt I'll make sure a Copy goes to the NY Times and the Washington Post just to get things going. Im sure that they will try and harrass me to a point. But Im hard headed and have a tendency not to listen to lies from anyone, let alone a politican. Now granted there are politicans that try and do the right thing , but are instantly told to shut thier mouths by Senior Politicans. My biggest pet peeve is that you cannot tell a citizan what is right and wrong and attempt to take thier rights, undser some bullshit policy. And just one final qusetion what is really going to happen, when ots found out that Obama is not a natural born citizan of the United States of America, every rule and regulation he and congress and the senate will fly right out the window and cannot be considered valid due to obamas citizanship status ( he isnt one! ) I do know of an indivudal that attemopted to get Obamas Birth certifacate by submitting a F.O.I.L. request and his request was denied under some paragraph of the national Security Act. Which is another word for Bullshit. So bassically as I had stated you can get the best justice in this country as long as you have the money to pay for it!.....Doc

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    Doc not to discourage you. But your wasting ink writing to Nanny Pigloze.
    Think when her bill for her U.S. Air-Force maintained jet hit the $5.8 million dollar mark, even Nappy said slow down..
    She and her crew just gave themselves raises. "I would consider it disrespectful to not get more money for my hard work."
    Those guns the L.O. dumped in the drink. Do not waste your time diving, the good ones are in their home safes. The crap went overboard..
    Still got my paperwork from a melted gun, used in a murder, that and ATF agent bought from my niece..
    "Connecticut Police.. We melted that weapon." ATF Agent. Not so quick, that is a WWII bring back .45.. Hold the fire, I will take that one."
    Dumped in the lake, yeah right.. Anyone believes that one, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale..
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    I got PADI certified AOW back when I was a sea Marine.Got certified by a Navy Chief in Italy back in 1976.I sold my gear around 1996.I had dreams of getting a small Trawler
    and being dive bum or get into off shore oil rig work after my Marine tour.Glad I don't smoke that stuff anymore.
    SOON-We already lost the war. You are the resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thIDvet View Post
    Doc not to discourage you. But your wasting ink writing to Nanny Pigloze.
    Think when her bill for her U.S. Air-Force maintained jet hit the $5.8 million dollar mark, even Nappy said slow down..
    She and her crew just gave themselves raises. "I would consider it disrespectful to not get more money for my hard work."
    Those guns the L.O. dumped in the drink. Do not waste your time diving, the good ones are in their home safes. The crap went overboard..
    Still got my paperwork from a melted gun, used in a murder, that and ATF agent bought from my niece..
    "Connecticut Police.. We melted that weapon." ATF Agent. Not so quick, that is a WWII bring back .45.. Hold the fire, I will take that one."
    Dumped in the lake, yeah right.. Anyone believes that one, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale..
    HI Vet,
    I understand what you are saying, but the only hard work that old hag has done as far as IM concerned is wasting taxpayers money inventeing new ways to get weapons banned,and the old witch stiring up trouble with her other gun grabbing asshole democratic friends. and you are right about guns that are taken off the street winding up in the private collections of Certain Law enforcement Officals, Granted this is not supposed to happen but it dose all the time. And I know of one case and personnally knew an officer that went bad! and I mean real Bad! this ass was stealing guns from the police property room and selling them to little hoodilums and getting them Police Id cards so they could pull off home invasions on drug dealers. It was a small department, and everyone who knew him couldnt belive what happened and what was to follow,, When this officer was questioned, It was brought up that he should retire from that department before anycharges would be filed, and if he left quietly that would be the end of the matter, this idoit not only left the department as he was asked, But later went to another state and was hired as a police officer, That would make the third agency he worked for, the first agency was a federal one. I wonder what he did wrong there. No-one leaves a federal agency and volentary takes a thirty thousand dollar pay cut. No mind you this hap[pened some years back. I dont kniow if this person is still alive or if the criminal justice system caught up to him. But I do kniow that when the story broke, he was already long gone, and no charges were ever filed against this officer. But I do know that thin Blue Line only goes so far, and only goes so thin.I do know for a fact that a fellow officer he worked with stated he was going to make a call and get this former officers badge taken away. Do I know for a fact this was done? I didnt witness the call being made, but I have no reason to doubt the officer who was going to make the call for he's a real stand up type of a guy. In fact he was so discusted by what happened at his department he resigned and went to work for another department. I know alot of cases where guns have come up missing at police agencys and its not good when its found out, a friend of mine has a permit to carry, and unfortunatly he got busted for driving while Intelligent (DWI ) his weapon was taken for safe keeping. when he went to get hsi weapon at the police department, are ya ready....they said the weapon wasnt there!! He pulled out a receipt from booking that showed his weapon was taken and vouchered into evidence locker for safe keeping onlyand was to be returned. In the Police Property Rooms Log Book it showed no such weapon ever being loged in. My friend went to the office of the Chief and told him that you have exactly thirty minutes to find my weapon or I'll be filing a report of a stolen gun with the State police. As it was later stated by the chief the officer was running late and he never vouchered the weapon into the property room, He took it Home instead. he stated this in his written statement to internal affairs. the weapon was recovered, the funniest thing was the weapon had been fired!! by the officer, and the gun wasnt the only thing that got fired! so did the officer. theire are cases like this all over the country, its just that most people never hear about them. And just for my own curosity, all those weapons that pelosi brings out every time she wants to further her gun banning carreer, where do they come from , I highly doubt that she knows any of the weapons by name the caliber or any other vital information about any of those weapons she parades around her special interest pals. But shes a douch bag I could ask what more could be said about her, but that Im sure the site dosnt have that kind of band width LOL. But I have faith that one of these days ( and it cant come soon enough!) she will get her ass thrown out of office once and for all and hopefully all her dumocratic commrades will get the boot as well so she dont feel all alone...Doc

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