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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Why is it so difficult for YOU, or anyone else, to understand that against the dispatcher's advice Zimmerman left his car and got into a confrontation with Trayvon Martin. If he NEVER WOULLD HAVE APPROACHED TRAYVON he wouldn't have provoked the confrontation that he was losing until he killed Trayvon. His head never would have gotten punched, beat into the concrete, or even touched for that matter.
    The timeline established by both sides in court, states Z left his truck to follow when Trayvon ran, then lingered to get a better look at a street sign and an address so he could both guide the incoming cops to his location and get a better sense of where the person he was observing had disappeared to. He was already out of the truck when the dispatcher told him he "didn't need to do that". Hardly a command, more of a friendly suggestion for his own safety. In any event, Z answered OK and indicated he was heading back to his truck. HE WAS FOLLOWING THE DISPATCHER'S ADVICE! It was somewhere on the trip back to the truck that Trayvon confronted Z, asked him if he had a problem, then proceeded to assault him with deadly weapons. Trayvon had every opportunity to "get away" from Z as he had passed beyond his sight 4 minutes earlier. 4 minutes to do anything he wanted to do. he CHOSE to double back and confront Z and assault him.

    In any event, let's say the Rear Ends Sharpton and Jesse fantasy scenario have it right, poor little Trayvon was jumped by Z. Under Florida self defense law, even if you start a fight, once the other party starts using "deadly force" on you, you can respond in kind and self defense applies to his death at your hands. Blows to the head and smashing onto concrete aside, the second he reached for Z's gun he turned a fistfight into a deadly force encounter and justified his own homicide. End of story.


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    776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—

    The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

    (1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or

    (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

    (a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or

    (b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.

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    Don't waste your time the facts don't seam to matter. All the other side sees race. It should let you know who the real racist are. Some posters aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00redZX-6R View Post
    Don't waste your time the facts don't seam to matter. All the other side sees race. It should let you know who the real racist are. Some posters aside.
    Nice try, but since I never mentioned race anywhere it seems you are tragically, horrifically, and pathetically...WRONG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Nice try, but since I never mentioned race anywhere it seems you are tragically, horrifically, and pathetically...WRONG!

    Its an assumption I made as well, considering there is no logical reason to support Trayvon martin, ALL the evidence points towards George not being guilty.
    So logic would say George is innocent, but with the way your hanging on to the getting out of the car thing just seems kinda weak, its like theres got to be more to it,
    because anyone with even 2 braincells could totally see George is innocent.

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    don't worry with the obama troll.

    any time obamas approval ratings sink here the A-hole comes with his left wing BS and spewing obamaist leftist.socialist drivel.

    a black or islamic can do no wrong and their all ways the vic and the white man is all ways the perp-- even if a mexican pulled the trigger!

    how fubared is that? LOL!

    hell we had a mini riot in LR . the LRPD shot a suspect that was fleeing and their was a near riot. it seems the black community thought a white police officer shot a black teen.

    turned out it was a BLACK police officer who shot a black suspect that was 24 years old. and the 24 year old black male (teenager) had a rather long rap sheet.

    there was a near riot anyways cause the blacks then claimed the whites put the black police officer up to the crime ---

    so if your a white you can't win --you were some how behind the blacks getting killed-- even if another black pulled the trigger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by akguy85 View Post
    Its an assumption I made as well, considering there is no logical reason to support Trayvon martin, ALL the evidence points towards George not being guilty.
    So logic would say George is innocent, but with the way your hanging on to the getting out of the car thing just seems kinda weak, its like theres got to be more to it,
    because anyone with even 2 braincells could totally see George is innocent.


    Thank you for nailing it,
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    Bottom line Z didn't have enough "Lead in his ass" or the skills to handle the situation, period. And he did what he had to do to survive,,,,
    Hell I've had to rip eyeballs out and bite like a rabid dog to survive in Nam,, ya got to do what ya got to do, that's just the way it is. They'd do the same to you. Survival is paramount in any struggle, do what ya got to do. The kicking and screaming didn't seem to work for,,,, tubby Z.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j427x View Post
    don't worry with the obama troll.

    any time obamas approval ratings sink here the A-hole comes with his left wing BS and spewing obamaist leftist.socialist drivel.

    a black or islamic can do no wrong and their all ways the vic and the white man is all ways the perp-- even if a mexican pulled the trigger!

    how fubared is that? LOL!

    hell we had a mini riot in LR . the LRPD shot a suspect that was fleeing and their was a near riot. it seems the black community thought a white police officer shot a black teen.

    turned out it was a BLACK police officer who shot a black suspect that was 24 years old. and the 24 year old black male (teenager) had a rather long rap sheet.

    there was a near riot anyways cause the blacks then claimed the whites put the black police officer up to the crime ---

    so if your a white you can't win --you were some how behind the blacks getting killed-- even if another black pulled the trigger!
    Dude, you are hysterical. Show me one time in MONTHS that I have posted a pro-Obama anything? Come on I'll wait. In fact show me where I ever posted anything pro-Obama. Believe it or not it was possible to not vote for Romney and yet still not be pro-Obama. In fact, I will go so far as to say the Democrats, Republicans nor the Tea Party don't give a damn about this country. It is about money, power, and agendas, nothing more. The average working man is meaningless and has been for decades.

    It's funny how all of you cry about the race issue yet you bring it up over and over and over with your wonderfully racist comments. Hypocrites much? To me a criminal is a criminal is a criminal. I don't care what their color, race, or ethnicity is. America never was color blind when it comes to justice.
    Last edited by FyredUp; 07-17-2013 at 01:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akguy85 View Post
    Its an assumption I made as well, considering there is no logical reason to support Trayvon martin, ALL the evidence points towards George not being guilty.
    So logic would say George is innocent, but with the way your hanging on to the getting out of the car thing just seems kinda weak, its like theres got to be more to it,
    because anyone with even 2 braincells could totally see George is innocent.
    You can assume all day, go back and show me where I EVER mentioned race. Since I didn't you made a false assumption and destroyed any point you were attempting to make. So, sorry no points will be awarded.
    Last edited by FyredUp; 07-17-2013 at 01:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Nice try, but since I never mentioned race anywhere it seems you are tragically, horrifically, and pathetically...WRONG!

    I did not mention you on purpose. I prefer not to associate with you in anyway. If I could block your posts I would. My time isto important than to have any discussion with you.

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