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    Default 1919 pistol project

    dummy/unfinished non-gun rec, no short bbl, just thinking






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    pbb,
    cool, but can you one hand it to shoot it?
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    I think so , I can hold it straight up with one hand. I have held and fired my barret with one hand on a bet before over the gulf so as not to drop a bullet on anybody, but yes as long as firing angle is not specified I can hold and fire it with one hand

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    I've seen video of someone firing a shorty M1919 from the hip. He was supporting it with a strap, feeding the belt with one hand and firing it with the other.

    IIRC, the feds classify a semi-auto M1919 as a crew served weapon. This means the federal laws pretaining to rifles and pistols don't apply to a M1919. A shorty M1919 with the A6 carrying handle isn't an AOW, a shorty M1919 with the A6 shoulder stock isn't a SBR. That doesn't mean you can't run afowl of state regs, but the ATF isn't going to bust down your door for building a shorty 1919.

    Here's a pic of a similar mockup done by the creator of the Crankfire setup:
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    Don't do it! Stop the madness!

    Seriously, I've never been a fan of "how small can you make it" builds. I'm a stickler for "authentic as possible" military clones.

    For me, the magic is making something "interesting". Like a quick-change barrel trunion. Or a belt-fed AK conversion. Or a SCAR-type caliber-convertible rifle (currently on my list). But a 1919 with .05" of barrel just isn't something that blows up my skirt.

    Anyone can cut a barrel down.

    I too have seen that shorty 1919 and just have to ask myself "why"? Is it cool? Novel, perhaps, and something that may get a bunch of guffaws at a gun show. Good to attract attention to the booth. But not something I'd want in my gun safe 10 years from now...

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    I don't disagree there Pookie, like an AK pistol the best thing I can see about a short barreled 1919 is the fireball it'd give off when you shot it.

    My personal favorite "oddball" 1919 is an A6 type, it had the normal length barrel and bipod, and it's builder used the buttstock and pistol grip assembly from a M240.

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    I have to say I am surprised somebody that would build a pink AK would say thay hcpookie! LOL.
    I guess after 25+ years of collecting this stuff I am just always looking for something new and unusual. If this one looks like a waste of a good parts set I probably shouldnt post pics of my 16" bbl vickers shorty.

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    Please post pics of your vickers I'd like to see them. the 1919 is cool, but how about making the booster into a bearing and have the barrel sticking out like a 50cal. What kind of finish are you doing on the 1919?

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    thats the plan on the 1919, bearing at the end and bbl sticking out and contoured to look like a 50 cal, just screwed the booster in place to see what a pistol like 1919 would look like. Plan is to bead blast then parkerize.

    I will post pics of the vic shortlt its in a state of disassembly now

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    Quote Originally Posted by panaceabeachbum
    thats the plan on the 1919, bearing at the end and bbl sticking out and contoured to look like a 50 cal, just screwed the booster in place to see what a pistol like 1919 would look like. Plan is to bead blast then parkerize.

    I will post pics of the vic shortlt its in a state of disassembly now


    I have seen a number of the short shroud/ barrel hanging out 1919 shorties and IME a lot of them dont function reliably, at least in .308. 8mm seems to have enough ommph to work without a booster, though.
    Im in the process of building one with an MG34 barrel with the rear bushed for the 1919 and the front bushing slid back to 6" from the breech. I'm using a cut off A6 booster with the orifice drilled out so the barrel sticks out through it. I plan to drill a port or ports so that the gas will impinge on the inside surface of the booster.

    I love my short 1919s for a number of reasons, they are a lot lighter, more handy and I get off on the 4' fireball. Mine are just as accurate as the full length if not more so.

    I would love to see pics of the 16" Vickers

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