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    here is a couple of pics of an FAL pistol I built in 1989 from one of the isreali falo sets sarco had at the time for $79 , somewhere I have some assembled pics and a cool vid of a thirty round dump at night I will find and post, I used a brazilian fal folder top cover and bolt. Around the same time I did an hk .308 pistol but the fal was by far the most fun to shoot





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    Wow man that thing is intense, very nice. I started on FAL's when I started building, I'm not trying to hijack your thread but here are the two I built. I never really thought about building a pistol that short before out of one,
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    Nice pistol, but why? Kind of like making a racing car out of a Mack truck.


    Quote Originally Posted by Twissted1
    Wow man that thing is intense, very nice. I started on FAL's when I started building, I'm not trying to hijack your thread but here are the two I built. I never really thought about building a pistol that short before out of one,
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    Nice build, I'll bet she sure throws a fireball!!! I've always wanted to get an HK 51B, belt fed FA SBR...one day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scubadvr
    Nice pistol, but why? Kind of like making a racing car out of a Mack truck.




    Nice FALs!!!!
    With 9 variations of fals already in the safe it was just time for somethig different at the time I had about 30-40 of the falo sets I was selling at gunshows on the weekend and simply got bored one week so the project was born, if you think the fal pistol is silly you outta see my friends hk51k with the 4" bbl, he also has a 50 bmg single shot pistol with a 10" bbl thats pretty intense.

    On the mac truck racing I notice they have circle track races, dirt and asphalt, drag races and I saw a division at the paris-daakar rally for semi tractors also, silly to me but hey one mans fun......

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    how long is the BBL on your pistol? did you machine the receiver for it? if you didn't machine it then aren't all but maybe the custom ones done by DSA considered a Rifle Receiver and does that count against this? just curious. I am really a big fan of FAL's and if the price hadn't gone up so much since my $99 kits from tapco long ago I would be all over a couple more to do atleast one pistol. a semi auto short bbl'ed .308 is my type of fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twissted1
    how long is the BBL on your pistol? did you machine the receiver for it? if you didn't machine it then aren't all but maybe the custom ones done by DSA considered a Rifle Receiver and does that count against this? just curious. I am really a big fan of FAL's and if the price hadn't gone up so much since my $99 kits from tapco long ago I would be all over a couple more to do atleast one pistol. a semi auto short bbl'ed .308 is my type of fun
    the bbl is 9", the receiver was purchased as a new never assembled virgin rec and assembled as a pistol from the begining, same procedure used for assembling ar, ak or hk pistol on a virgin rec.

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    $79 kits... Ahh, the "good ol' days"!

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    i am thinking of building a semi auto pistol in a rifle caliber.... my thoughts were... id take a FAL para folder lower.... and mill of the folding stock attachment... or fill the slot for the folder and mill the rest off..... so it will not be able to accept a stock.... and a local gunsmith said he would cut down the front end and throw a brake on for $200 but here is where the questions come in....

    a semi pistol build does not have to be 922 compliant... right??

    no parts count??? just be in semi config

    just no forward grip, no buttstock attachment... parts count doesnt matter just as long as its under 26".... 30" here in michigan am i correct so far??

    i heard of a 50 ounce pistol rule but i think that was under the AWB and is expired now??

    my other question is the RECEIVER.... can i take a unassembled receiver... that has never been built into anything and have the ffl transfer it to me as a pistol, take the bare receiver to the police station and register that receiver as a pistol so i wont have any problems so i wont have any problems with not registering it right away...

    or does the receiver have to come from the manufacture as either a "firearm receiver" or a "pistol receiver"??? or can i take a bare receiver that was transfered to the ffl as a rifle but never assembld, sold to me from the the ffl as a pistol in the 4473 and be ok???

    please email me any atf letters that might be floating around that would be of interest to my build....

    one last thing..... how about a cetme or g3 pistol build... where can i find a pistol endcap or can i just use a standard stock and machine off the sholder piece and weld a flat piece of steel on the back of the endcap where the stock attaches so none could ever be attached??

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    11" DSA front end looks almost a good way to go..

    any idea who has receivers in stock i think i can use any receiver that has never been assembled into a rifle configuration.....

    ________________________________________


    October 1, 1992


    Firearms Technical Branch
    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
    650 Mass. Ave., NW
    Washington, DC 20226

    Dear Sirs:

    The Greensboro, NC BATF Compliance Office suggested that I write to
    you for information on the following point.

    I am interested on whether it is possible to have a commercially
    manufactured rifle receiver changed to be legally considered to be a handgun
    receiver, and how this can be done. The Compliance Office said that this
    might be possible via a "Letter of Determination", but advised me to write
    to you about the criteria and procedures.

    For example, if a person has a rifle receiver and wishes to have it
    built into a rifle-caliber handgun suitable for steel silhouette target
    shooting, comparable to the bolt action Remington XP-100 handgun. I
    understand that the serial number of this receiver is recorded as being for a
    rifle. Could this person have this receiver's serial number considered to be
    a handgun receiver? If so, what procedures and paperwork would be
    necessary.

    Sincerely,

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Oct 29 1992
    Dear Mr. XXXXX:

    This refers to your letter of October 1, 1992, in which you inquire
    about the legality of manufacturing a handgun which utilizes a rifle
    type receiver.

    26 U.S.C. Chapter 53 # 5845(a)(4), the National Firearms Act (NFA),
    defines the term "firearm" to include a weapon made from a rifle if
    such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches
    or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.

    Utilizing the receiver of an existing rifle for the purposes of
    manufacturing a handgun would constitute the making of a firearm as
    defined above. Individuals desiring to make such a firearm must first
    submit an ATF Form 1, Application To Make And Register a Firearm and
    pay the applicable $200 making tax.

    If an individual were to obtain a rifle type receiver that had not
    previously been utilized in the assembly of a rifle, a handgun could be
    made and not be subject to the provisions of the NFA. Verification
    must be obtained from the manufacturer of the receiver to establish
    its authenticity.

    We trust the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry. If we may
    be of any further assistance, please contact us.

    Sincerely your,
    (signed)
    Edward M. Owen, Jr.
    Chief, Firearms Technology Branch

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