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    Well I called FAC and they say it will be six to eight weeks till they have Coonan receivers in. I asked the woman about the fact that they have been saying that for some time already and she said that they really have no idea when they?ll see more Coonan?s shipped in. So then I called DSA and received a little attitude from the person that talked to me, but then again she must get a lot of calls asking the price on receivers. She could only tell me the retail cost on a receiver and it?s more than twice that of a Coonan. I?m not going to pay $450 for a receiver no matter how good they are, I?d resell the kit and parts I bought before I spend that much. If I wanted to spend over a thousand dollars on the gun I would have just bought a DSA rifle in the first place. I guess I?ll have to settle for an IMBEL and replace the butt stock to get my parts count right, kind of sucks though, I wanted to keep it as original as I could.
    I received the gauge set from Enco today, only two days and it?s at the door, fast service. The Ruger is just for size reference. $48.49 for the pins and right now they have a special deal that if you buy over $50 you get free shipping just apply promo code ?RNFS25?, if this code doesn?t work give them a call and you may still get the shipping free. Go to http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRHM or call 1-800-USE-ENCO
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    Oldgunner, The Imbel recievers are nice. For parts count why not go with muzzle attachment, gas piston, FCG (hammer, trigger, sear), Pistol grip, and an operating rod (charging handle). That would be the 7 compliance parts and you could keep the buttstock that came with the kit. Or mag floorpaltes could be used as well. Just a thought anyways.

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    You'll like the STG-58. They are considered among the best-quality FAL parts kits. My buddy has one with a post-ban muzzle brake. I must admit, that sucker really helps with recoil.

    IMNSHO I'd choose a FAL over an HK-91/G3 any day of the week. And I'd choose an STG-58 over any other FAL kit.

    The Coonan receivers are a mystery to me - do you have a link or post to one?

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    Harlan sell Coonans when he has them;
    http://www.gunsnstuff.net/index.aspx...iqueid=4088463

    Link to Dan Coonan Industries;
    http://www.dancoonan.com/

    I think this search link will work this way (if not do search on FalFiles for "coonan"
    http://www.falfiles.com/forums/searc...der=descending


    Did I do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper69
    Oldgunner, The Imbel recievers are nice. For parts count why not go with muzzle attachment, gas piston, FCG (hammer, trigger, sear), Pistol grip, and an operating rod (charging handle). That would be the 7 compliance parts and you could keep the buttstock that came with the kit. Or mag floorpaltes could be used as well. Just a thought anyways.
    Thanks Sniper, I didn?t actually know the charging handle counted if replaced, I guess I didn?t think of it as the ?Operating Rod? for some reason. When I think operating rod, I think of the smaller piston that an SKS has, I don?t picture the charging handle as a rod/piston.
    I already have a Tapco STG Muzzle Brake that looks just like the original STG flash hider but is really a muzzle brake not an evil flash hider.
    I already swapped them, looks great! I noticed that this model has the short gas tube and it?s brazed or silver soldered in place so I can?t replace it without replacing the whole gas block and front sight. Any one else have a gun with the short tube? I?ve heard that they?re dirtier to shoot because of excess gas escaping inside the handguard? T or F.
    I sat down with my FFL guy and he told me that if he ordered a DSA receiver for me that the most I could expect for the dealer discount would be 25% and that it may be less because of it being a sellers market right now. So with the $15 he would charge, plus tax & shipping the total would be around $400 by the time I have it in hand, that bites when a Coonan only cost $200 and a Imbel is $20 less than that. I think I?ll put myself on the FAC waiting list for both the Coonan and the Imbel and see what comes in first.
    I called ?The Dealers Warehouse? and they expect Imbels too come in the first week of March, but they don?t know if it will be enough to cover the orders they?ve taken already. Maybe we should start telling people that FAL ?s are crap so they stop buying up all the receivers.
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    After contacting both FAC and DCI, it looks like FAC isn?t ordering enough of the receivers to fill the orders they have. DCI says that they delivered eight receivers to FAC last month and they imply that?s what FAC ordered, (But FAC has over 100 people with orders waiting?). It looks like FAC is trying to force people to buy the Imbel (Now out of stock) and Century receivers they have in stock before they sell Coonan?s. It makes FAC look like the bad guy to me not DCI. I think we?re all getting screwed by FAC on the Coonan?s so I won?t even place an order with them. I called ?The Dealers Warehouse? and put myself on their list for the Imbel receiver, they think it?ll be 2 to 4 weeks before shipping.
    I also emailed DCI about the idea that the wait is because of them re-working the receivers to fix a problem and got this back from Steven Lincoln at DCI, seems like a good guy to me from the emails, he?s answered me within a couple of hours each time.

    ?The only problem that we were having with our receivers was in the finish. It looked like a crack, but was a flaw in the finishing process. I believe that they were sold as seconds because of the finish flaw.
    We delivered eight receivers to Federal Arms last month and they do the ordering.?

    Steven Lincoln


    It sounds like FAC only ordered eight and DCI delivered what FAC asked for when he says ?and they do the ordering?. In an earlier email he said ?Last customer I talked to said they were 100 plus units on back order.? just a guess but I think FAC wants to get rid of those Century?s first if they can.
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    Well, I know some say they are good and others say they have some issues, (and personally I have heard both opinions from people) but have you tried entreprise? http://www.entreprise.com/default.htm they are American made and the price isn't to bad. Might be another option to look into.

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    I thought I remembered another company making receivers but couldn?t remember who it was. As soon as I saw your post I thought ?Damn, their the ones that make that California legal AR lower, the one that won?t take a removable magazine.? Thanks for the tip, I?m sometimes kind of thick in the head so I didn?t remember them, as I get older it gets worse too. I looked at the web site and found they have a sale on right now so I?ll have to get in touch with them Monday about availability and then see if I can get my FFL dealer to place an order for me. I remember hearing good things about their receivers so I feel safe in buying one if they have any in stock.
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    FYI, I've recently seen CHEAP FAL floorplates:

    http://www.dsarms.com/catalog-list.c...dd5493GKh$2E$F


    US118 FAL Metric Magazine Floor Plate, U.S. Made $0.75


    Seems like a cheap solution for compliance...

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    DSA receivers are the only forged and milled receivers using original FN and Steyr blue prints, and the quality is absolutely outstanding.

    You don't here about people having issues when they build on a DSA receiver, while the recent Imbels have had some issues and the Coonans, while nice receivers, are cast and reverse-engineered.

    Look at it this way, you bought the best kit available, a Steyr StG-58 kit with low miles and a Steyr cold hammer forged barrel.

    Get the best receiver you can for it.

    Here's my DSA StG-58 with a new/unissued Belgian/German G1 walnut buttstock.







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