WHAT IS THE POINT OF BEING A DICK?? THIS IS A DISCUSSION NOT A PISSING CONTEST. MAYBE ITS A AR OWNERS THING, I SEE IT ON ALMOST EVERY AR SITE. I AM NO WAY SAYING YOU ARE WRONG ON MOST OF THIS.why don't you go do a fact check before you open that big pie hole of yours?
I spent right at a grand on my last AR in 223 with a GOOD heavy barrel good mounts and cheap optics GOOD trigger and a few dodads that may or may not have helped. I could have spent less but then it would not have shot as good. good barrels are not $100. Ill admitt a deer hunting good enough barrel likely can be had for that but it aint going to be great. I have also pieced a AR together for $400 a few years ago with internet buys and cheap needed to be fitted partss. It went bang and there was nothing brag about.
HONESTLY WHAT CAN YOU CURRENTLY BUILD A COMPLETE AR IN X39 FOR WITH A DECENT OPTIC, TRIGGER AND A MEDIUM QUALITY BARREL??? IM TALKING WITH MOSTLY NEW PARTS AND AVERAGE PRICES FORM CURRENT SOURCES???? LETS USE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN 16" BARREL IF POSSABLE TO GET A LITTLE MORE SPEED. A 18 OR EVEN 20" BARREL WILL NOT HURT A DEER GUN. IF WERE GOING TO DEBATE NUMBERS LETS SEE WHAT IT REALLY ADDS UP TO. I WONT BE HURT SEE IT COME IN AT WELL UNDER A GRAND. LETS SAY $175 FOR THE OPTICS. THATS ABOUT WERE I WOULD START FOR ANY OF MY DEER RIFLES. I DO RELIZE THAT FOR MANY HUNTING SITUATIONS A SCOPE IS NOT MANDATORY.
I am far from a expert on the AR. I assembled a few that about it.
the internet is full of people reporting issues on 7.62x39 through a AR mag well. you would have to be blind not to see them. If i get time ill post a few links of just what I saw last week while researching the 300 black out.
Again I am very glad that you are having good luck with x39 in your guns thats great. Im i susposed to ignor all other reports from those who have issues?? NO id be smart to find out what your doing right and that is the point of this discussion. I honestly noted what mags your using for down the road. I have zero use for a x39 AR but you never know. a 6mmx39 would be cool.
I do have to ask if the x39 works so damm good then why is every one jumping on the 300 black out band wagon lately??? slightly less power and no cheap ammo for it. dont make a lot of sence to me. I under stood it to be because there were issues in x39 through a AR mag well. Also you can use a standard bolt that is susposed to be more reliable than the x39 bolt that sees more bolt thrust.
Gander Mountain has remington 700,s with a scope ( likely a cheap one) for $399. they have savages with a scope and a rebate for a case an something else for sligtly less. both those guns are going to offer more performance than a x39, 300 black out, 6.5 grendal etc. trying to compare a cheaply built AR to a $1000 bolt action aint that fair either. I have high dollar bolt actions also but im not comparing them to a $500 AR it would not be fair.
I under stood this discussion to be about setting up a AR 15 for deer hunting and what is the best calibre option for that. Ill restate that IMOO and from having done it for quite some time thatt he x39 is not a great deer round. Yes it will kill them but there are hundreds of rounds better. the 30-30 evewn though it has possably killed more deer than any other round is not a great deer round either. Its what was avalable at the time and guys used the best they could. at 100 yards It will work fine if your aim is on. same for a x39. personaly I look for at least 2500 or more FPS with a 150 grain bullet in 30 calibur to feel really comfortable with my gun choice at longer ranges. It my opinion and every one is free to dissagre It wont hurt my feeling one bit. Personaly I work with the AK platform as the mag well is not restricted to short rounds for SA assult style hunting needs. If that wont work there is a browning BAR in 7 mag that will but 4 shots into what I aim at as fast as i can pull the trigger. there are lots of remington Autos out there in 30-06 that will out do a AR in every way except mag capacity ( restriced any way in most states) that are avalable used for under $400. My dad and nad grand father have shot one for over 40 years with little proplems. If you want a deer rifle in SA then buy one made for it. if you need to have a assult style rifle for that then look at the AR 10 or other 308 win length case magwells. a fal or cetme or what ever. Ill take the extra power every time. tracking wonded deer suck. ill take the extra damaged meat over thatr any day.
AGAIN IM NOT TRYING TO TAKE THIS DISCUSSION DOWN A UGLY ROAD.