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    Question Yo j4 AR guys trigger question

    O.K. so I am getting into these ARs so I can go totally broke.
    I bought standard, whatever they had in the shop trigger groups.
    Go too the range and pull the trigger. Damn..
    I am no longer a good shot. Going blind.
    But it was like pulling on an 18 wheeler too get the damn round too go off.
    I was hitting the guys target four place down, at 25 yards.
    Damn near needed two of us too pull the trigger.
    What do you guys use? Do you tune them? Lube them?
    Two stage triggers?
    These high end new fangled high dollar triggers?
    Need something beside this low end trigger, or too tune it.
    Only other ones I shot were full auto, so I did not care about trigger pull.
    Thank you in advance for any help, so I can hit something. 4th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thIDvet View Post
    O.K. so I am getting into these ARs so I can go totally broke.
    I bought standard, whatever they had in the shop trigger groups.
    Go too the range and pull the trigger. Damn..
    I am no longer a good shot. Going blind.
    But it was like pulling on an 18 wheeler too get the damn round too go off.
    I was hitting the guys target four place down, at 25 yards.
    Damn near needed two of us too pull the trigger.
    What do you guys use? Do you tune them? Lube them?
    Two stage triggers?
    These high end new fangled high dollar triggers?
    Need something beside this low end trigger, or too tune it.
    Only other ones I shot were full auto, so I did not care about trigger pull.
    Thank you in advance for any help, so I can hit something. 4th.
    sounds like there is a problem with that trigger/FCG set up.

    i have been running the stock set up for years--ya know the set up that comes with a lower parts kit. so far i have only had one that was gritty and binding. it was a CMMG kit i got from AIM.

    how if fixed it -- i swapped in a colt mill-surplus m-16 hammer that had the auto hook ground off. if you have a spare trigger or hammer try "the mix and match".

    i am far from an AR-15 trigger expert --but i can tell you that there are several cheap ways to get a good trigger with about 4-5lbs of pull with the stock kit.

    sometimes you can shorten the legs or bend the legs on a hammer spring,

    if you have some polishing stuff for a high speed tools you can polish the trigger & hammer contact areas.

    the high $$ triggers do work though most of the time arn't necessary.

    there was a thread a while back on a DIY trigger tune-up. hopefully some one will link this??

    if you want to go with a aftermarket trigger check out CDNN.

    i am such a cheap ass i just polish up the stock stuff for my own use--LOL

    PS don't forget to lube the contact areas!-- don't need anything special or mall ninja for the lube, the standard mill issue stuff or even mircron 3 seems to be fine--

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    Default Yes j4...

    Damn I wish you lived closer.. I don't know what the hell it is??
    Only other one I used was full auto and the Govt. was buying the ammo.
    So I put it on full auto and left the selector there.
    But this one, have not shot the others, was like trying too pull a bulldozer with your finger..
    I just don't know???
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    4th here's the link J4 mentioned. It works. If ya want to spend some money, Timney makes a very nice single stage. It's a nice trigger and goes boom like a well tuned bolt gun trigger. Kinda dangerous in the wrong hands though, because most guys are used to alot of take up in an AR so they accidently discharge it at first. 15 Minute Practical Trigger Job for the AR-15

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    Awesome.. I have too give that a go..
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    There's also the Speed hammer mod, and set screw mod which removes the "creep" from the trigger. I've polished and done the spring mod, speed hammer mod, and set screw mod on all of my AR's. My lightest one(Which is my go-to rifle) is just over 3lbs.

    It's comparable to my complete JP FCG I used to have(That's w/ speed hammer, and spring)

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan09 View Post
    There's also the Speed hammer mod, and set screw mod which removes the "creep" from the trigger. I've polished and done the spring mod, speed hammer mod, and set screw mod on all of my AR's. My lightest one(Which is my go-to rifle) is just over 3lbs.

    It's comparable to my complete JP FCG I used to have(That's w/ speed hammer, and spring)
    Thank you logan.. I am going too give the one the crew posted a go..
    I am sure it will work if I do it correctly..
    I have too do something on this one.
    Trigger pull is just too heavy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thIDvet View Post
    Thank you logan.. I am going too give the one the crew posted a go..
    I am sure it will work if I do it correctly..
    I have too do something on this one.
    Trigger pull is just too heavy.
    Cutting/Bending the Springs is the easiest one to do. You will be surprised how much it lightens the trigger pull.

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    Thumbs up God Bless yall..

    Oh my God it worked.. It works..
    15 Minute Practical Trigger Job for the AR-15
    Changed this trigger pull from a bulldozer, too a smooooooth pull.
    Have not even polished it quite yet. Got too get the polish stuff.
    Incredible, just incredible.
    So easy a cave man can do it.
    You AR guys try it if yah want. Most your going too do is ruin a few couple of dollar springs if you dont like it.
    tanvil, logan, j4. I owe yall a case of beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thIDvet View Post
    Oh my God it worked.. It works..
    15 Minute Practical Trigger Job for the AR-15
    Changed this trigger pull from a bulldozer, too a smooooooth pull.
    Have not even polished it quite yet. Got too get the polish stuff.
    Incredible, just incredible.
    So easy a cave man can do it.
    You AR guys try it if yah want. Most your going too do is ruin a few couple of dollar springs if you dont like it.
    tanvil, logan, j4. I owe yall a case of beer.

    and the good thing is ya didn't have to spring for that $$$ aftermarket trigger!

    i have got soo spoiled to the simple smithing on the M16/AR series.

    it don't cost all that $$$ to assemble a good one either.

    only thing bad with the AR's is their like potato chips--ya can't have only one--LOL

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