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    Thanks for the heads up j427x and the great info and checklist for an AR kit or complete upper from bellson. As for 4thIDvet you are killin' me, my wife keeps asking what the hell I'm laughing about. I like a good deal like the next guy, and I've bought a lot of things that j427x finds and post for us here, but I'm really thankful for the reviews, warnings and good advice from j427x, and all the other great folks on this site!! Bargain buys are sure not worth getting hurt or even ruining a good lower like that poor guy with the Colt lower.
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    i am far from an AR specialist. most of my dealing with the m-16/m4 system was toting it in very hot or very cold parts of the world and dealing with the friendly natives.

    the AR is one of the most simple and easy to assemble and smith rifles ever designed.

    two things it has to have -

    # 1 a good barrel assembly that has the proper chamber and head-space.

    #2 a properly made bolt and bolt carrier

    these are not places to skimp even on the most low $ effort, AR-15, AK, FN-FAL don't matter the type--they all have to be correct in this regard.

    this is not saying that there arn't some good venders in the lower priced AR market. i can list some good ones.

    be very wary of vendors that are raiding others scrap piles. it is that last dollar that many try to save that gets them into this kind of shit.

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    Smile j4 knows I am funnin him..

    He p.m. me too ask if I really have a hit on him from the mob.
    All kidding aside. Nobody is listening.
    I really have not touched one of these things for 40 years.
    Florida is the epicenter for NASCAR engines, gun parts, etc..
    With an airport "Deland" "Daytona" they can manufacture and fly stuff out quite easily.
    Me and my Bro just went too one of the AR factories and got the tour.
    Quality big names. Nice people..
    While everyone is arguing about which AR is the best.
    They will sell me whatever the hell I want and have cash for.
    No names on the items.. So I buy.
    500 recievers. "Tim 4th ID Vet recievers" Barells, bolts, same same.
    So when were at the range.
    "My Rock River is better than your DPMS.."
    Do some manufacture their own? For sure.
    But it cost a small fortune too tool up for these products.
    So they buy from someone allready tooled up, that meets their standards and put their name on it.
    My $325 complete upper shorty, is all marked RR..
    Rock River. Hell I dont know?
    Does price determine quality?
    Probably so, if your lucky.
    So you may be shootin the same company weapon. With different names on them.
    Come down, I will take you too the factory and show yah.
    "Man needs but two things to survive alone in the woods. A blow up female doll and his trusty old AK-47" - Thomas Jefferson 1781


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    Smile Postin same time j4..

    I called the hit off.
    "Man needs but two things to survive alone in the woods. A blow up female doll and his trusty old AK-47" - Thomas Jefferson 1781


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    hell i ordered some DPMS lower parts kits from JSE a while back, the cheap ones in the plastic bags.

    when they came in they were all marked rock-river--

    the reason for so many factories making AR/m16 parts is in the cold war they wanted many small factories making parts. many of the small parts makers went commercial after the cold war --

    DPMS did make a lot of small parts for m-16 and 1911s. i remember seeing some in the arms room.

    i am glad ya called that hit off 4th. i can't sprint away like i did back in 81!--LOL!

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