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    Quote Originally Posted by bellson View Post
    Hello All,

    Like most things in life, Free Floating is just one aspect that affects accuracy.

    Here is my $0.02 for what it is worth:

    Accuracy is achieved by incorporating the following into any firearm.

    1. The barrel must be a heavy enough profile to resist "Whipping". All barrels "Whip" to an extent. The heavier the profile, the less the "Whip". Fluting will help with rigidity, and dissipating heat.

    2. Free Floating simply insulates a barrel from being acted upon by external forces. A cold-bore shot from a free floated barrel will be just as accurate as it is from a "normal" barrel, simply because the barrel is cold, and most resistant to "Whip" and heat.

    3. Blue-Printing. All of the parts that comprise a rifle, being correctly fitted together, with square and true mating surfaces. As the rifle heats up, there is little or no "heat warping" since all of the mating surfaces are square and true. Duh.

    4. The rifle needs to "fit" the shooter. Length of pull, cheek weld, focal distance to rear sight, and everything else that you want to mention right down to balance and grip size all contribute to a 10 shot group at 500 meters all perforating a heart sized target, vs. a 12" group.

    Again, this is just my set of beliefs. But, I can back this up with an AR, and AK, an SKS, a Mauser, an Enfield, a Springfield, a 1917, and any Remington 700 or Savage 10 / 110. I can not say this about a Mosin, since I have never built one with my own little hands, but I am certain that these rifles share the same set of physics that the rest do.

    Hope this helps.

    Regards,
    i think this is what was wrong with my uncles browning auto shotgun --

    all kinds of warped and miss aligned parts = scattergun that shoots a yard and one foot to the LEFT!

    damn thing about the browning though it still functioned fine--lol.

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    Just got to this post late. FF tubes pretty much keep anything from effecting the barrel giving it a more true point of impact. I have one on a S&W M&P 15 and love it. Many people get tight into there slings and when teh sling is mounted to the barrel it effects it even more. So now the thing to do is get a FF hanguard and attach the sling onto it as to not throw of the point of impact. If you put stress on that barrel you get unusual wear patterns in the barrel as well. I have another AR without FF tubes and my dad even has a 1st Gen AR with the rotary rear sight and the triangle hanguards and I will say I am accurate with all of them, but I have heard of accuracy increasing as much as 50% with them. I have gone 10 for 10 at 500 yds with an M16 A2 so like I said I dont notice it severely but I'm just an AR guy. There is a purpose to them though and it makes a difference for some guys.
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    To me if you're a competetive shooter, the free float is mandatory. If you're just a rugular shooter that busting paper and/or home defense, then there is ZERO need for a FF handguard. Of course unless you're into the Mall Ninja thing, so you can brag online about how accurate your AR is compared to everyone eles obviously inferior weapon because it doesn't have a "insert brand name and part here"!!! LOL.
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    Hell yea,, I free float everything, even my $89 Wal Mart Savage 22, and that was just a piece of milk jug between the stock and action lug, but it even made that one drive tacks, even though it shot great before, busting penney's at 50 m now one after another, no issue, before 1" groups. And all with 5 minites work and a piece of milk jug, not very high tech at all. Try it out, it really works well believe it or not.

    EVEN BUBA,,, can do it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by twa2471 View Post
    Hell yea,, I free float everything, even my $89 Wal Mart Savage 22, and that was just a piece of milk jug between the stock and action lug, but it even made that one drive tacks, even though it shot great before, busting penney's at 50 m now one after another, no issue, before 1" groups. And all with 5 minites work and a piece of milk jug, not very high tech at all. Try it out, it really works well believe it or not.

    EVEN BUBA,,, can do it!!!

    even a bubba with a high-speed 50,000+ rpm roto tool?--LOL!

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    Default bellson..

    Very good info.. Interesting.. Reading one of the gun books, I could not believe the barrel really does bend.
    But the Mosin.
    Check out Mr. "White Death."
    Top sniper WWII... Finn. Russian commie killer..
    Rifle, old beater Mosin Nagant.
    First 500 kills, with no sights.
    His next 201 kills, they broke down and bought him a scope..
    That was nice of the cheap skates..
    Total confirmed now 701.
    Unconfirmed?
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    i saw some ninjas ar-15 the other day--it was free floated and quad railed and even the quad rail had its on angle mount rails! which held more rails--damn rail crazy!--


    i really need the FF quad just to be in with that IN crowd--sort of a fashion statement--LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thIDvet View Post
    Very good info.. Interesting.. Reading one of the gun books, I could not believe the barrel really does bend.
    But the Mosin.
    Check out Mr. "White Death."
    Top sniper WWII... Finn. Russian commie killer..
    Rifle, old beater Mosin Nagant.
    First 500 kills, with no sights.
    His next 201 kills, they broke down and bought him a scope..
    That was nice of the cheap skates..
    Total confirmed now 701.
    Unconfirmed?

    There are some very interesting stories about him, and what all the russians did to try to get rid of just him....a single soldier.

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