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    Always sore, always tired Bradrock's Avatar
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    I might lay it all out & post a pic here for advice.
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    I just think sending it back has it's own risks
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    these kits are probably some of those millions of MAP m16a1's that bill clinton gave away to various central american countries. or more likely paid them to take them.

    the first of these looked to be in nearly mint condition.

    just like the AK stuff as supply dropped- prices went up and they became more of a grab bag in wear and overall condition.


    even the most worn ones i have seen look to be carried more than they were fired.

    as long as the bolt carrier has not worn thin in the cut-outs on the under side and the cavity where the bolt goes is well chromed and not pitted it should run.

    you might want some gas rings --their like $3 a set---- if you got good tension in the bcg with the bolt installed you can even skip the $3 ring job.

    those colt made bolts are VERY hard --less it has been shot to death it should still be good and head-space with a new barrel.

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    well my kit arrived today

    first let me say its as described on AR-15.com and not in Sportsmans guide, no cleaning kit or sling, well to a tee the butt stock is cracked on top not bad but noticable, the buttplate needs to be replaced, otherwise the finish is in nice shape, the a-1 upper is not as bad as expected but could be much better, the bolt looks real good almost new to not heavily used, the spring and buffer and tube look good, the front sight base is good to go, the handguards are in nice shape except the one is cracked
    all the internals are there except one detent pin and one hammer pin and trigger guard

    the mag has lost its finish, i will give it some thought about keeping it its not a total abortion , maybe just a ounch in the stomach for $500 plus

    look like parade guns the way the top of the butt stock is cracked
    I may be right looks like it came from southeast asia, i opened the butttrap to see if there we any "we love Hanoi Jane leaflets"
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    How come Sportsmans Guide won't put up my review???
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    I got my kit in last week. Got to say mine looks pretty good,about what I was expecting. Plastic is in really great shape, no cracks or heavy scratches. No trigger guard, but everything else looks complete.

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    Might be from South East Asia..? But kind of slim chance..
    My Bro was there during the shut down years. They were turning the bases over too the ARVNs troops.. Who could not wait to get everything they could grab and sell it too the highest bidder.
    Legally once America gives, lend leases, donates, whatever.. The weapons or equipment is not allowed to come back too the U.S..
    Like a tax payer Christmas present. Here yah go, have fun.
    His job was to ride from base too base and watch the people, who were supposed to be using the stuff to defend themselves, yeah right.. Steal everything not nailed down. Hell I think they even stole the nails.
    Another Nam Bro on a recent "tour" visit said "Tim their is nothing left from the war years, nothing nothing nothing." After the war, citizens grabbed every damn thing for scrap metal.. Hell think they even dug up mines and scrapped them.
    Some trinkets can be found in tourists shops, but not a real lot.
    Now Thailand is loaded with the old M-16s.. I saw their Military carrying them a few years back.. Still working and going strong.
    Now they were some pretty damn tough well made weapons.. Guys beat the hell out of them and they held up, for the most part.
    My guess??? is these were in storage here in the States.. Troops told to move them, probably just whipped them from bin too metal bin, or heaved them in warehouses. Hence the cracks, scratches and dings.
    Put some picts. up guys.. Hell so many years ago, I don't even remember what the hell they looked like.
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    no these were not sitting some warehouse in the US, these suckers have been heavily used, may not be from nam , maybe south america, also vietnam gave the so. american insurgants left over arvn equipment or these could come from southeast asia,
    these are not knocked around rifles thrown into a bin, the buttstock cracks are in locations to indicate, parade use formal or instruction and for the handguards to be cracked up front in the same place by almost all the kits, these must have been used for bayonet practice. maybe some day we will hear where they came from
    my kit was heavily oiled not cosmoline but oil, finish may come up better if and when i clean it up
    I have decied to keep the kit as they are not likely to sell more
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    i know the IDF got a couple MILLION a1's through MAP for $25 each on special terms.

    their still fielding at least some of theirs. their a1s came from disbanded NG/Reserve forces and were very fresh.

    we had a link up somewhere on these guys who study the m16s historically speaking --

    i don't know if i can find it--but it has all the little details of who got what and what happened to it.

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    there are numbers on the bottom of the buttstock like rack numbers the number 7 has a line through it like the french do
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