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    night raven, If you want to be closer to Cali, move to AZ or NV. Gun friendly and still half a day's drive away.

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    Around 65 Democrats in the US House sent a letter to AJ Eric Holder a few days ago . Here's a very short translation of what they told him:

    They will fight any AWB or anything like it.
    STFU and do your job.

    Details at www.theakforum
    Click on the pic , go to HR 1022 AWB Forum.

    There is no way a new AWB has a chance after that.

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    Just something to think about. Everything that has come through congress that has had any kind of uproar from us common folk has passed VERY few if any republican votes.

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    When I was at 29 Palms we were told California Gun Bans did not affect us.

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    Not Quite... I wish it were that simple, it's a goat rope... And you are not exempt:


    Active Duty Military and 'assault weapons'

    Active duty military with PCS (permanent change of station) orders to California and who own personal weapons California defines as 'assault weapons' should contact the California Department of Justice regarding a Military Assault Weapon Permit (MAWP). CA-DOJ also suggests you contact your base/station/post legal staff for assistance.

    CA-DOJ does not maintain application forms on line for the MAWP, and does not provide any documentation or guidance on line.

    With a MAWP, the service member may bring those weapons on the permit into California.

    Once obtained, the MAWP may be renewed annually. If the service member separates from Active Duty while in California, the MAWP is no longer effective, and the 'assault weapons' become illegal and must be removed from the state or otherwise handled according to law.

    DOJ Contact Information:

    General Information Phone: (916) 263-4887 Fax: (916) 263-0676

    Assault Weapon Registration and Special Weapon Permits Phone: (916) 263-8100 Fax: (916) 263-0790

    Bureau of Firearms P.O. Box 820200 Sacramento, CA 94203-0200

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    The proposed enactment of the UN Convention on Light Weapons, is contained in Obama written and Snowe (among others) co-sponsored senate bill pending. I'll have to go back and review to find this.

    Much more troubling: Roberts "Heller Decision" re-defines the definition of "Arms", to conform to the UN Treaty. NRA, GOA, JPOF, all are ignoring this.

    Look up the definition of Arms in the Heller decision: @ pg 53 in the PDF if memory serves. This begins: "Then, as now..." and is fiction revising fact of the Arms of the American Revolution.

    Also note that if implemented, the UN treaty contains no pre-1898 provisions. All military designs, whether original, copies, or designs derived from a military weapon of any age would be prohibited from civilian possession.

    As this would apply to, for example, winchester 54, 70, Rem 700, (derived design from Mauser turnbolt military design) you may start to see the details.

    Hillary Clinton in the past week pushing for treaty implementation. A 2000 page bill passed late at night needs only a two line subscript to pass.

    Right now, garden seed is getting very hammered. I seriously recommend a two year supply, stored with dessicant. Long row garden plan contained in "5 acres and independence", @ $9, good place to start. 120 x 200, food for 6 for a year. Needs updating for your climate/location, and modern varieties. Open pollinated strongly advised, and shorter colder season than the past 20 years or so.

    Why? implementation only requires interruption of our just-in-time food supply, two weeks later, rations, cards, registrations and dispositions of all firearms owned since 1968
    could be the "solution" to the "emergency" Obama proposes.

    Enforcement: "Council of Governors", Rand Policing and Stability Policy, Interpol led?

    Can't smell the New World Odor yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kendwell View Post
    The proposed enactment of the UN Convention on Light Weapons, is contained in Obama written and Snowe (among others) co-sponsored senate bill pending. I'll have to go back and review to find this.

    Much more troubling: Roberts "Heller Decision" re-defines the definition of "Arms", to conform to the UN Treaty. NRA, GOA, JPOF, all are ignoring this.

    Look up the definition of Arms in the Heller decision: @ pg 53 in the PDF if memory serves. This begins: "Then, as now..." and is fiction revising fact of the Arms of the American Revolution.

    Also note that if implemented, the UN treaty contains no pre-1898 provisions. All military designs, whether original, copies, or designs derived from a military weapon of any age would be prohibited from civilian possession.

    As this would apply to, for example, winchester 54, 70, Rem 700, (derived design from Mauser turnbolt military design) you may start to see the details.

    Hillary Clinton in the past week pushing for treaty implementation. A 2000 page bill passed late at night needs only a two line subscript to pass.

    Right now, garden seed is getting very hammered. I seriously recommend a two year supply, stored with dessicant. Long row garden plan contained in "5 acres and independence", @ $9, good place to start. 120 x 200, food for 6 for a year. Needs updating for your climate/location, and modern varieties. Open pollinated strongly advised, and shorter colder season than the past 20 years or so.

    Why? implementation only requires interruption of our just-in-time food supply, two weeks later, rations, cards, registrations and dispositions of all firearms owned since 1968
    could be the "solution" to the "emergency" Obama proposes.

    Enforcement: "Council of Governors", Rand Policing and Stability Policy, Interpol led?

    Can't smell the New World Odor yet?
    Scary, but very possible. Screw the savings account, buy guns, ammo food, repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markp View Post
    Well lets say the worst happens and they pass a bill like Komifornia. You will have to register your "assault" weapon with the powers that be and they will gain the right to come inspect that assault weapon any time they like. Basically you will be giving up your 4th amendment rights. You won't be able to sell or transfer your assault weapon to anyone, and you will have to renew your permit every few years or give up your weapon.

    You would not be allowed to take your "assault" weapon with you as if it were any other long gun, you would now have to be going to or from a legal activity or it would have to be properly stored in your home.

    That's probably the worst case and that's pretty close to how you roll in CA. A great many people in CA did not register their "assault" weapons, those that did, well they got a raw deal.


    Mark
    This is absolutly wrong on so many levels. The DOJ and LEO's have zero right to stop by and inspect your registerd AW. You do not lose any 4th amendment rights. The AW law just says how you can transport your RAW and that it cannot be transferrd to anybody within the state unless that person is an FFL with a DOJ dangerous weapons permit. You die your gun leaves or get chopped up for parts. Your kids don't get it.

    There is no renewal requirment for AW's. Military AW permits are annual do to the nature of their service, it's 20$ to file the form.
    If somebody is moving to Cali and you have a questionable gun you can refer to the AW flowchart http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
    If your rifle is not banned by name then it only needs to have a mag lock installed and cannot be used with any mags that can hold more than 10 rounds. You can bring all of your hi cap mags but they must be broke down into "rebuild kits"

    I think it's funny when people spout off about how bad we have it. There is a way to get anything you want into Cali and be 100% legal.

    We can get just about anything we want execpt NFA hardware. Oh, and yes we are fighting.....and we will win. The Calguns foundation fights for the rights of not only California gun owners but gun owners nation wide. It all starts here, and god willing we'll snuff it out here also.
    There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
    The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
    The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
    The others, well......they just never learn.

    "The ONLY thing nessecary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
    We are good people......We must do something....."The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

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    Quote Originally Posted by night_raven40404 View Post
    Hey, R U in Cali?

    Any Cali help would be nice.
    Calguns.net - Powered by vBulletin

    We have made progress here and are succeeding in educating the general public. A grim reality is that most people don't even bother to vote. After the last national election a lot of people rushed to buy firearms and had a rude awakening to the consequences of not paying attention to elections. When they found out we have a lot of new laws they don't like they started caring about elections. Better late than never I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexinorting View Post
    I just picked up my SA48 FAL today from the shop and it got me to thinken this is a registered firearm what will happen when this gun ban goes into place,what loops will I have to jump through ect..(hypotheticaly if it did pass)
    -ALex
    Nobody's going to pass a gun ban, at least not at the federal level, so relax. Everything's OK.
    * This is My Rifle *

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