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    Quote Originally Posted by OLD_COP View Post
    Your work is exceptional, what is the finish on the metal?
    Thank you! The finsh is KG GUNCOAT Midnight Blue.

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    Great looking rifle! Was it difficult to work out the fit for a regular (non-saiga) magazine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500grains View Post
    Great looking rifle! Was it difficult to work out the fit for a regular (non-saiga) magazine?
    Hi,
    Thanks! To answer you question...Well kind of. I had to install a Bulgarian .223 bullet guide, which meant drilling a hole in the trunnion. This was ok though since I had to pull the barrel to turn it down anyway. A little extra work but well worth it since I can now use nearly all .223 AK magazines. Interestingly I have found that I can even use my 35 round steel Galil mags without having to make any modifications.
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    Very nice looking AK Will. A am also interested in how you made the Weiger mag to fit. My question is does the magazine have any side to side play?






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    Hi Mike,

    I did not modify the Wieger magazine body, I did however build up the mag catch release on the rifle by about 4 thousands of an inch, which brought the back of all my .223 mags up to were they needed to be, just snug under the rails. Add to this the installation of the bullet guide and you get flawless feeding. Also I have not had an issue with side play from the Wieger mags, I have had some side play from a couple of Bulgarian .223 waffle mags. That being said they still feed flawlessly even though they were a little sloppy. One other thing I should mention, I used a Bulgarian AK74 trigger guard when I did this conversion. I hope that helps you.
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    "Side to side play" or "mag wobble" is something that has sneaked in to the Kalashnikov arena via the AR15 boys.

    Military Kalashnikovs have mag wobble. They have canted sights, gas blocks, etc.

    So long as it doesn't affect the operation of the rifle, it's fine.

    When the "side to side play" or "mag wobble" gets so drastic, the magazine blocks the bolt carrier or the bolt carrier completely overrides the next cartridge, that is the "side to side play" or "mag wobble" to be wary of.

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    Thanks will6970 and nalioth. I have a Saiga 223 that I have been thinking about doing something to it. I noticed ProMag has a 30 round 223 mag, but I do not want to start collecting Saiga mags when I have a bunch of Weiger mags. Man, you have one nice looking rifle.



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    Thanks Mike,
    Don't hessitate to contact me if you need any help with your Saiga project.
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    Sorry bout the back from the dead, old post, but did you remove the trunnion and "fourth rivet" when you did the bullet guide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FordFreak View Post
    Sorry bout the back from the dead, old post, but did you remove the trunnion and "fourth rivet" when you did the bullet guide?

    Drew
    Hi Drew,
    Yes I did, but after having built more than a couple AKs, it was realy no big deal. I you can find one use the Bulgarian .223 bullet guide. I think I got mine from K-VAR.
    Thanks,
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    Last edited by will6970; 07-05-2009 at 02:46 PM.

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