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Thread: Saiga-12 gas piston and 922r

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    Logically, it would be called a piston. But when did logic ever enter into anything the alphabet boys decide? LOL
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    When you talk of the piston in an engine ,Do you speak of the piston or the piston rod assembly?
    Its the piston.Not the rod

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3tc View Post
    When you talk of the piston in an engine ,Do you speak of the piston or the piston rod assembly?
    Its the piston.Not the rod
    There you go trying to use logic again.
    That's the whole point of this thread. You can't use logic when trying to interpret anything the ATF does.

    In the two photo's below (ignore the fact that one has the bolt in it)
    According to the ATF, one is a pic of a carrier and a piston, two countable parts. The other is a carrier and that's it, no piston, (not even a op rod) and is only one countable part.

    Where's the logic in that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7.62x39 View Post
    There you go trying to use logic again.
    funny post! You almost made me spit my coffee on my keyboard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7.62x39 View Post
    There you go trying to use logic again.
    That's the whole point of this thread. You can't use logic when trying to interpret anything the ATF does.

    In the two photo's below (ignore the fact that one has the bolt in it)
    According to the ATF, one is a pic of a carrier and a piston, two countable parts. The other is a carrier and that's it, no piston, (not even a op rod) and is only one countable part.

    Where's the logic in that?
    You are correct ,there is none.
    Where did you get "According to the ATF, one is a pic of a carrier and a piston, two countable parts. The other is a carrier and that's it, no piston, (not even a op rod) and is only one countable part." Did this come from the BATFE website,a Liaison or ....?Link please.
    We know the BATFE critters lack critical thinking skills ,and worse yet depending on the time of day you can get 6 answers from 4 different people at one time.As always get it in writing.
    I think however that we will find that it is soley the piston.I am quite sure that Tony R. and the others that are making this part have done the leg work for us and got the correct answers and paper work to back it up.
    I look forward to seeing the link .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3tc View Post
    Where did you get "According to the ATF, one is a pic of a carrier and a piston, two countable parts. The other is a carrier and that's it, no piston, (not even a op rod) and is only one countable part." Did this come from the BATFE website,a Liaison or ....?Link please.
    I look forward to seeing the link .
    Are you asking how we know that this is considered the gas piston and a 922r countable part in a AK?
    Are You kidding Me?
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    It is not just one person who makes these decisions. First one person at the Technology Branch made up a list of guns and their parts counts. Then as folks wrote in to ask about other guns, whoever got assigned the task of answering the letter made the decision. Throw in political pressure on top of all that and you get the results that we see.

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    Well, now.

    That certainly throws a wrench in the theory.

    Which part IS the countable one?

    Do you need both for it to count?


    My money is on Tromix getting the go-ahead before producing the puck. I'd stay away from this one as a 922r part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nalioth View Post
    Well, now.

    That certainly throws a wrench in the theory.

    Which part IS the countable one?

    Do you need both for it to count?


    My money is on Tromix getting the go-ahead before producing the puck. I'd stay away from this one as a 922r part.

    seems strange tromix is not selling the puck?? I would think it would still be listed if out of stock.

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