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    Default Pre-ban mini-14 magazines

    To all that live in a state where the AWB did not go away.
    Before you go shelling out $100 for a "pre-ban" factory 30 rounder, check this out.
    I could not seem to get a straight answer on how to ID a pre 94 mag. So I sent an email to Ruger CS dept for the straight skinny. Here is my email and their reply.



    Ruger Customer Support NoReply@ruger.com
    5:57 PM (3 hours ago)


    Dear Mr. XXXXXX ,


    Thank you for using the Ruger On-Line Customer Support Request Form.

    This e-mail is in response to your question or comment of 08/17/2012
    Request No: 150993

    Comment / question:

    Greetings,
    I have a question regarding magazines for my mini-14
    As I'm sure you are aware, here in MA any magazines over 10 rounds must be pre-ban (mfg before 9/14/94)
    How can I tell when a mag was mfg? The ones between 94 and 04 are marked LEO, so those are obvious, but how can I tell the difference between one made pre 94 and one made post 04?
    I just want to make sure that I keep it legal.
    Thank You,
    XXXX XXXXX



    Response:
    Unfortunately, there is no way to tell.

    If you need further information, please visit our website at www.ruger.com or contact us at:

    Revolvers, shotguns, rifles, 10/22 Charger Pistol: (603) 865-2442
    Pistols: (928) 778-6555
    Serial Number History Information: (603) 865-2424

    Please note: This e-mail is sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message.

    Sincerely,
    Ruger Firearms
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    If Ruger can't tell, the .Gov can't either.

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    Exactly why I've been doing the happy dance ever since I got the reply.
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    For long time Ruger would sell 20 round magazines to the public but didn't sell 30 round magazines to the public until later. There are likely a lot more 20 round magazines around than 30 round magazines. When Ruger started selling 30 round magazines, a friend bought a Mini-14 and he bought a case or two of magazines every pay check. He bought both 20 round and 30 round magazines. The 20 round magazines were $14 and the 30 round magazines were $18.

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    QUIT DANCING
    The Gooberment will say they are illegal and it will be up to you to prove they're not.
    I'm sure that was the plan all along.
    Hunter

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    Actually the burden of proof is with the prosecution. If a law is written so that compliance, or lack of, cannot be established then the law is unenforceable.
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    Depends on whether or not pre-ban is a "positive defense" or not. Some laws totally ban an item, but state it is a positive defense if they meet certain criteria. Here, MGs are like that. Simple possession is all they have to prove, it's on you to prove they are legal with your tax stamp and form.

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    I think the difference here is that all machine guns are banned except those with verifiable form and stamp.

    In max's case there is no verifiable equivalent to the registration.
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    So, if you can't really distinguish the prebans, what would I expect to get out of a 20 round unmarked and a 30 round with a Ruger marked floorplate?

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    The mini-14 is reportedly very finicky about mags. If you go to the mini forum 9 out of 10 report problems with non Ruger mags. Therefore the resale on aftermarket mags is very low.
    The 30 round ruger mag goes for $40 new, so $25-$30 for a used one would be about right. The unknown one, maybe $20.
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